Transcript [00:00] Hey everyone. So, I want to share with [00:01] you a conversation. Well, it's actually [00:04] two clips from a conversation. They're [00:07] both of Ayaan Hirsi Ali. [00:10] And she she This conversation took place [00:13] about a year ago and she was and it was [00:16] a three-way conversation between her and [00:17] Barry Weiss and Julie Bindel. Julie [00:20] Bindel is a British feminist journalist [00:22] who's done significant work [00:24] investigating the grooming gang [00:26] scandal in Britain, the rape gang [00:28] scandal in Britain. [00:31] And uh and that's what these clips both [00:33] relate to. [00:36] And I want to react to them because [00:38] they're again they're both Ayaan Hirsi [00:39] Ali. She's a remarkable woman. She grew [00:41] up in [00:43] in uh Somalia [00:45] uh in and uh she was a she was uh in a [00:49] Muslim situation. She was abused. She [00:51] was [00:52] forcibly [00:54] um [00:55] she was forcibly underwent genital [00:57] mutilation. She then eventually made her [00:58] way to Europe. She became a part of a [01:00] member of parliament in in Holland. [01:03] In the Netherlands. [01:04] And uh [01:06] she's you know she's been threatened [01:08] with her you know her life has been [01:09] threatened by Muslims for for for [01:12] calling out the truth about [01:15] about Islam. [01:16] She's a remarkable woman. I've made a [01:18] number of videos with clips of her over [01:20] over the months. [01:22] But I want to react to both of these [01:24] clips because I think she she drills [01:28] down on [01:29] like kind of the psychology behind why [01:33] this has been allowed to happen [01:35] in the UK in a way that [01:38] that that I thought was really [01:39] clarifying. So, that's why I wanted to [01:42] touch on this video. Now, uh just a note [01:44] of uh for clarity in the first clip [01:48] uh she starts off she's talking about he [01:51] him. [01:52] Uh she's talking about Tommy Robinson. [01:53] He was discussed in the previous [01:56] segment. So, she just talk starts [01:58] talking about him and and I'm just [02:00] telling you that cuz it was easier than [02:01] clipping the whole previous segment. So, [02:03] that's who she's talking about at the [02:04] opening of this clip. Let's go to clip [02:07] number one. Let's hit it. Here we go. [02:09] >> He did before anyone else because it was [02:12] happening in his neighborhoods. He's [02:15] born in Luton. He's working class. And [02:17] this his cousin was raped by a grooming [02:21] gang. And he brought this to the [02:23] attention of the British people over and [02:25] over again. That man is in prison. And [02:29] forgive me if I say, if you look at this [02:32] particular topic, he has done more than [02:35] any feminist in history to bring this to [02:38] light. He is in prison. There are [02:41] British people who want to know it and [02:43] other Europeans, but once they know it [02:45] and once they have the courage to [02:47] publicize it, what happens to them is [02:50] this punishment by the media that vilify [02:53] them. By the police that arrest them. By [02:57] the courts that charge them with [02:59] contempt of court. This is I think it is [03:02] this suicidal. I don't know what to [03:04] describe it as. If this If Tommy [03:07] Robinson were an American citizen, we [03:10] would have a statue of him. He would be [03:11] a hero. He would be getting the Medal of [03:13] Freedom. The guy is in prison. And I [03:16] think that that is one of the things is [03:18] why is that, Julie? Why is it that the [03:21] British members of the public who want [03:23] to know it, who publicize it, who risk [03:25] their lives doing it, they are the ones [03:27] who are thrown in prison. There are [03:29] examples that [03:31] buried in your in the piece by Dominic [03:33] Green [03:34] that you published of the girl who goes [03:38] they put [03:40] a nail through her tongue. Um [03:43] the story that she grueling story that [03:45] you just described of death. [03:47] Some of these things they are put Some [03:49] of these victims are the ones who get [03:52] arrested by the police. They are the [03:53] ones who get punished. And that is [03:56] something I think that we cannot easily [03:59] bypass by saying, "Oh, there are some, [04:02] you know, these men are not monsters." [04:05] Uh [04:05] >> [clears throat] [04:05] >> these not all Muslim men are monsters, [04:09] but the men who are doing this are [04:11] monsters, and they invoke a culture and [04:13] a religion that is monstrous. And it is [04:16] high time that we say things as they [04:19] are. [04:25] >> Now, whatever you think of Tommy [04:25] Robinson, [04:27] whatever you think of his politics, [04:29] whatever you think of the way he's [04:30] conducted himself, [04:32] set all of that aside for a moment. [04:34] At the time this was recorded, he was [04:36] sitting in prison. [04:39] And what she's describing is this. [04:41] Here's a guy [04:43] from a working-class neighborhood [04:45] in England, whose own cousin was a [04:47] victim of a grooming gang. [04:50] He brought this story to the British [04:51] public over and over again at enormous [04:53] personal cost. [04:56] And for that, he was sitting in prison. [04:58] So, she makes the comparison to America, [05:01] and I think it's exactly right. If an [05:02] American citizen had done what Tommy [05:04] Robinson did, exposed a systematic, [05:06] organized, years-long sexual abuse of [05:09] thousands of children that the [05:11] authorities [clears throat] were [05:11] covering up, he'd be a national hero. [05:15] There'd be a book deal. There'd be a [05:16] documentary. The Medal of Freedom, [05:18] right? [05:19] But in Britain, he was in prison. [05:24] And the most damning thing about what [05:25] she's describing is that it's not just [05:27] Tommy, it's the victims themselves. [05:32] She talks about how some of the girls [05:33] who reported what happened to them got [05:37] arrested. The people who publicized what [05:39] was happening were punished by the [05:41] media. [05:45] They were punished by the media. They [05:46] were They were punished by the police. [05:47] They're punished by the courts. [05:49] That inversion, [05:51] right, where the whistleblower and the [05:52] victim are treated as the problem, [05:56] that shows a systematic problem. That [05:57] means that it's not It's not an anomaly. [06:03] And And that's [06:04] that's what Ion is pointing to, that [06:06] there's something systematic here, or [06:08] systemic here, I think is the right [06:10] word. [06:11] And this goes into what she explains now [06:14] in the second clip. So, let's hit it. [06:19] >> So, if you if you go back in a little [06:21] bit in time, in the early 2000s, late [06:25] 1990s, [06:26] there were [06:28] very hot debates and discussions [06:32] on what sort of societies we are now in [06:35] Europe. I lived in the Netherlands at [06:36] the time, but the the discussion was [06:37] going on all over Europe. [06:40] And what we had was this classical model [06:44] where [06:45] the system of law looks at individuals, [06:48] and all individuals were equal before [06:51] the law. So, if you're a perpetrator of [06:53] any crime, you would be treated [06:55] absolutely like everyone else. [06:58] But then we had this Muslim minority [07:01] that we were trying to assimilate or [07:03] coexist with or [07:06] accommodate, whatever it was. And there [07:08] was a whole school of thought, I think a [07:11] lot of them came from America, who were [07:13] pushing this multiculturalist model. [07:15] So, when you say community relations, [07:19] that is one of the centerpieces of [07:22] multiculturalism, [07:24] which is [07:25] instead of being this, [07:28] you know, Western society, which was [07:30] racist, Eurocentric, oppressor, [07:33] oppressed, there's a whole criticism of [07:35] that. The multicultural model says, [07:39] minorities [07:41] are going to be given exceptions and [07:43] exemptions and that is one way of not we [07:47] don't like using the word assimilate but [07:49] it was integrating them into society. [07:52] And so this model is now bankrupt. This [07:56] model has given us these grooming gangs. [07:59] This model has given us all sorts of [08:01] crimes. This given this model has [08:03] failed. Now at certain times for [08:06] instance Angela Merkel in 2015-2016 [08:10] after that rape gang you know there was [08:13] this mass rape where immigrant men [08:15] had started groping and harassing German [08:17] women. She came out and said [08:19] multiculturalism had failed. [08:21] A little before or after that David [08:23] Cameron who was then Prime Minister in [08:25] Britain also came out and said [08:26] multiculturalism had failed. [08:29] And even though these leaders took this [08:31] position multiculturalism isn't going to [08:33] work they did zero nothing about the [08:37] policies in place. So the community [08:40] relations the community policing giving [08:43] responsibilities [08:45] to members within those ethnic [08:47] communities who are not qualified to do [08:49] it. In America you would call this [08:50] diversity equity and inclusion. All of [08:53] these things happened. And so the police [08:56] who are covering were not even allowed [08:58] to tell you who their ethnicity is. [09:00] We're not allowed to tell you who the [09:02] lawyers are who are covering up for [09:03] this. [09:04] I would ask the question within the old [09:06] system [09:08] let's open the whole can of worms open [09:11] and then you're going to discover who [09:13] exactly [09:15] was where when and did what. [09:17] And a lot of this covering up [09:20] is part of it is ideological because [09:23] we're committed to the model of [09:24] multiculturalism. That's what we [09:26] invested in. That's where we poured a [09:28] lot of taxpayer money into and when you [09:30] pull away from that what are you going [09:32] to get? [09:33] And then parts of it is the corruption. [09:35] It is it's a model Community relations [09:37] is a model that has corrupted the system [09:41] of social work, of police work, of the [09:43] relationship between politicians and [09:45] these communities. You can just now go [09:47] to a so-called community leader and get [09:50] a heap of votes instead of going there [09:52] and making your case. So, the system is [09:54] corrupted in so many different ways and [09:56] that has to be opened up. And that is [09:58] going to lead to the abandoning not just [10:01] of multiculturalism in name, but multi [10:03] the multiculturalist policies. And [10:06] again, that is going to take us to if we [10:08] have, hypothetically speaking, about 1 [10:12] million people in Britain who are [10:13] incriminated in this [10:16] grooming gangs scandal alone, what are [10:18] we going to do with those men? [10:21] Okay, you then I've started to talk [10:23] about deportations and things like that. [10:25] And that is the one thing I have [10:27] discovered in every single European [10:29] country that is the one thing that you [10:32] you you can't talk about. [10:38] >> There you go. [10:40] Ayaan Hirsi Ali at her best. [10:43] She's laying out the intellectual [10:45] architecture of how this happened. And I [10:47] want to focus on what she's actually [10:48] describing because [10:50] I think people hear it and they think [10:52] policy failure. [10:54] Incompetence. [10:57] Uh you know, of leadership lead failure [10:59] of leadership. But that's not what this [11:00] is. [11:01] And this is what is so valuable about [11:03] how she describes it. [11:05] That the multicultural model [11:08] going back to the 1990s across Europe [11:10] said that minority communities [11:13] would be given exceptions and exemptions [11:15] from the normal standards of Western [11:17] society. [11:19] Right, the justification was this is how [11:20] we're going to integrate them. This is [11:21] how we're going to make them feel at [11:22] home. We have to be sensitive to where [11:24] they're coming from. We accommodate [11:26] them. We work through community leaders. [11:28] We don't hold them to the same standards [11:30] we hold anyone we hold everyone else to. [11:33] But think about what that actually says. [11:35] It says that we don't believe that these [11:36] people are capable of meeting the [11:38] standards that everyone else meets. [11:41] We need a lower bar for them. [11:45] But that's not tolerance. [11:49] It It's one of the most condescending [11:51] positions imaginable. It's It's what we [11:54] What's the expression? The soft bigotry [11:55] of low expectations. [11:58] Right, dressed up as compassionate, [12:00] treats these adults as though they were [12:02] children who can't be held morally [12:03] responsible or animals who can't be held [12:05] morally responsible for their actions. [12:08] And the people who designed this policy, [12:10] who championed this policy, [12:12] people who would never in a million [12:14] years describe themselves as bigots, [12:16] people who pride themselves on their [12:17] enlightened progressive values, they [12:19] were operating on the premise that [12:21] certain minority communities, because of [12:23] where they come from, need to be managed [12:25] and handled rather than held to a common [12:28] standard of the law. [12:32] What is a society, right? You have a [12:33] law, and the law speaks to the moral [12:36] fabric of the society, and you're saying [12:37] that that they're not bound by it. [12:42] Now, we've seen something similar [12:43] before, in concept. If you go back to [12:46] like the 19th century, the great [12:48] justification [12:49] for colonialism back in the old world, [12:53] the way it would be justified by the [12:55] Western elites who were colonizing all [12:58] sorts of nations in Africa and Asia and [13:00] wherever, [13:01] was that these people aren't ready for [13:03] civilization. They need to be guided and [13:05] and managed and educated and gradually [13:07] brought up to the standard under our [13:09] supervision. [13:11] Right, Western elites spent centuries [13:13] doing this to people again in Africa, [13:14] Asia, the Middle East. [13:16] And they told themselves the whole time [13:17] that they were doing it out of [13:18] benevolence. Now, it could very well be [13:20] that there was a lot of benevolence [13:21] there. [13:23] I mean, [13:24] there's a a of bad reasons for [13:27] colonialism and a lot of bad [13:29] motives behind it, but there was also, [13:31] to be perfectly honest, if you believe [13:33] that Western civilization, [13:35] Judeo-Christian, biblically founded [13:37] Western civilization is superior, [13:39] and I do, so it's not the end of the [13:41] world. You know, you go out to this [13:42] other country, but you go somewhere else [13:44] and you bring those values and you bring [13:46] some order and you and you govern them. [13:48] I don't want to debate colonialism right [13:49] now. [13:51] But it happens over there. [13:57] So there you can sort of say, "Okay, you [13:58] know, they don't have the same standards [14:00] and they have these backward ways and [14:01] these and their and their ethical [14:03] standards are out of whack and we're [14:04] going to try to [14:06] educate them and bring up the natives." [14:09] But you do it over there. [14:12] When you bring them into your own [14:13] country, [14:15] it's a whole different thing. [14:19] But what Ian is describing is the same [14:22] it's the same bigotry of low [14:24] expectations, but it's a little but a [14:26] very different application of it. [14:31] So that it's the same civilizing [14:33] mission, right? [14:34] Of the elites. It's the same [14:35] condescension. Except now it's playing [14:38] out not in the colonies over there, but [14:40] it's playing out in Rotherham, in [14:42] Rochdale, in Telford, in Luton, [14:47] and all across Europe. [14:49] And the people being sacrificed to the [14:51] project are not abstract colonial [14:53] subjects. [14:56] They're not other people in a society [14:58] that also shares those [15:01] backward that backward moral framework. [15:04] It's working class British girls. [15:09] And here's the crucial detail. The [15:10] elites who built this system, the [15:11] politicians, the administrators, the [15:14] community relations officers, [15:16] the media people who push it, they don't [15:18] live in those neighborhoods. [15:21] Their daughters don't go to those [15:22] schools. They bear none of the cost. [15:25] They don't compete for the jobs that [15:26] those people compete for, also. [15:28] But, let's talk more about those these [15:30] rape gangs. [15:31] They designed a system that traded the [15:34] safety of the working class [15:36] for the political management of a voting [15:39] block. [15:41] And they think that they're being [15:42] they're being um [15:44] inclu- they're being inclusive. They're [15:46] embracing diversity. [15:48] They're being politically correct. They [15:50] bring they they they they moralize about [15:52] it. [15:54] But, it's not just domestic policy that [15:56] has this soft bigotry of low [15:57] expectations. [15:59] The same logic plays out in foreign [16:01] affairs. [16:03] What do I mean? [16:04] When a European government persecutes a [16:07] a religious minority or a or if there's [16:09] persecution of a religious minority in a [16:11] Western country, [16:14] there's outrage. There's hearings, [16:16] right? Like we had the hearings in the [16:17] Congress because of these these uh with [16:20] the Ivy League presidents calling them [16:22] out for for turning a blind eye or [16:25] facilitating anti-Jewish [16:28] activity and rhetoric on their campuses, [16:31] right? [16:35] Or if there was some if some religious [16:37] minority was being persecuted in a [16:38] Western country, like we don't stand for [16:41] it. [16:42] But, when Muslim majority states do the [16:44] same thing, when Christian minorities [16:46] are systematically persecuted in [16:48] Pakistan and Egypt and Saudi Arabia and [16:50] Iran, [16:52] the same institutions go quiet. When [16:53] women are treated as legal non-persons [16:56] in these countries, all over the Middle [16:58] East, all over Africa, [17:00] when honor killings are tolerated by the [17:02] state, [17:04] where apostasy is punishable by death, [17:06] right? We have this in many many [17:08] countries. There's slavery in in in many [17:10] Muslim countries. [17:12] The progressive establishment [17:14] doesn't care. [17:17] The establishment that would be outraged [17:20] if these things happened in their own [17:21] countries, I would hope. [17:23] They just people in the West just look [17:25] the other way. Oh, it's that's them. [17:27] That's their culture. [17:29] That's their culture? [17:31] It you see it's the same reason. Cuz [17:33] underneath all the humanist language, [17:35] there's an operating assumption that we [17:37] can't hold them to the standard that we [17:39] hold ourselves to. [17:44] They're not there yet. [17:45] It's a different culture. We have to be [17:46] sensitive. [17:48] This is not cultural sensitivity. It's a [17:51] hierarchy of human worth [17:55] disguised as tolerance, right? It says [17:58] what we're saying in effect is that a [17:59] Pakistani Christian [18:01] woman [18:03] her rights matter less to us than a [18:05] French woman's rights. [18:07] That if you have an Egyptian Coptic [18:09] Christian family, that we don't need to [18:11] protect them as much as that we would [18:13] have to protect a family [18:14] in the West. [18:18] Or they don't they're not entitled to [18:19] the same protection. [18:24] Like the people [18:25] making these the people who who hold to [18:28] these views, they'll never admit that [18:30] that's what they're doing because to say [18:31] it plainly would be to expose that what [18:34] they believe about the people they claim [18:36] to be defending, they would expose that [18:38] that what they really think of them. [18:40] Now, back to Europe. Ayaan Hirsi Ali [18:41] mentions Angela Merkel and Cameron. [18:44] Both of them at different points stood [18:46] up publicly and said multiculturalism [18:48] has failed, right? They said it out [18:50] loud. And then nothing changed. Not a [18:53] single policy was unwound. The community [18:55] policing model stayed. The DEI style [18:57] social work apparatus stayed. [19:00] The arrangement with community leaders [19:02] stayed. [19:05] The arrangement with community leaders, [19:07] I mean, that's it that you heard what [19:08] she said about that. Like they just [19:10] let's deal with the Muslim community, [19:11] the Arab community leaders, and and let [19:14] be sensitive to how they want to deal [19:15] with it. Yeah, right. [19:17] That means that you that you don't [19:18] actually believe that your legal system, [19:20] that you the human rights, the [19:22] the rights of every citizen that you [19:23] have enshrined in your culture, in your [19:25] society, in your law [19:27] should really apply. [19:33] So, if you believe that the model of [19:35] multiculturalism of [19:37] uh [19:38] has has has failed as Merkel and Cameron [19:42] said. [19:43] And you do nothing about it. What does [19:44] that tell you? [19:47] Cuz they had power. They could have, you [19:50] know, these were powerful people. They [19:51] could have done something about it. They [19:52] could have made it a priority. [19:54] It means either that they don't really [19:56] believe it or that they understood that [19:58] the interests keeping the model in place [20:01] were stronger than your concern for the [20:02] people being harmed by it. [20:06] Neither of those is a very uh [20:09] charitable [20:10] result, a charitable explanation. [20:14] And she ends, you know, she ends this [20:15] this clip by saying that hypothetically [20:17] there could be a million people in [20:18] Britain implicated in these rapes rape [20:21] gang grooming gangs scandals. [20:24] And she asked the obvious question that [20:25] no one wants to talk about, right? What [20:27] do you do with these people? [20:28] And her answer is no one will talk about [20:30] it. Deportation is the one word you're [20:32] not allowed to say in any European [20:34] country. [20:36] And I think that's where the the whole [20:37] thing actually like bottoms out, right? [20:39] A society that cannot name what it would [20:41] do with the perpetrators [20:43] has made a decision. [20:47] It has decided that it is easier to [20:49] continue sacrificing the victims than to [20:51] face the reckoning. [20:54] This is a moral failure. The policy [20:56] failure was only a symptom of the moral [20:58] failure. [21:00] And it's being committed every day by [21:02] people who are absolutely convinced that [21:04] they're on on right side of history. [21:06] These sanctimonious, [21:08] you know, woke progressives [21:12] Ayaan Hirsi Ali grew up inside one of [21:14] those [21:15] horrible systems. She knows what it [21:17] feels like to be on the receiving end [21:21] of all of this. [21:24] And I think that's part of what gives [21:25] her voice on this topic the moral [21:27] authority [21:28] that [21:30] that is you know, is unique and [21:31] important and we have to listen to her. [21:36] All right. [21:37] That's it for this one. 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