Transcript [00:00] Well, well, well, in case you missed it [00:02] a few days ago. I went on the Aaron [00:04] Milan show and I revealed for the first [00:07] time revealed publicly that it was Joe [00:09] Kent, the former head of the [00:12] counterterrorism center at the office of [00:14] the director of national intelligence, [00:16] who again, he just resigned last week [00:19] and I revealed that he was the one who [00:21] had leaked text messages, screenshots of [00:24] text messages [00:26] to Candace Owens from a chat group that [00:29] I was in with Charlie Kirk. So, here's [00:33] me on the Aaron Milan show. This is this [00:35] is an [00:36] this is just an edited short that I put [00:38] up on on X, but it gives you [00:41] it gives you the basics of what I said [00:43] just in case you haven't been following. [00:45] Let's talk about Joe Kent. Big headlines [00:48] regarding his resignation. [00:50] >> This is this is never been made public [00:51] before Aaron. If anyone's been following [00:53] the plot about Charlie Kirk and Candace [00:56] Owens and the famous screenshot that [00:59] Candace made so much of. [01:01] You know that I was in that chat group. [01:03] Andrew Kolb was Charlie's number two guy [01:06] who now hosts the show. Andrew was in [01:09] the chat group as well. He was one of [01:10] the nine people in the group. He said [01:12] that on the show that he gave those [01:13] screenshots to someone in the [01:15] government. [01:16] >> Next thing we know Candace Owens is [01:17] talking about it. Candace kept saying [01:19] that she has information from the from [01:21] the top levels that there's questions to [01:22] be asked. No, I'm just saying there's [01:24] unanswered questions. The messages had [01:26] been given by Andrew to Joe Kent [01:29] and that Joe Kent had been the one to [01:30] pass them on to Candace. This is someone [01:32] who's the head of the counterterrorism. [01:33] So, when he said to Tucker, well, you [01:35] know, we all know about the text [01:36] messages which were made public. [01:38] >> because of the text messages the text [01:40] messages that have been made public. You [01:42] made them public. Let's talk about Joe [01:45] Kent. Big headlines regarding [01:48] >> Okay. Before we go on, please make sure [01:51] if you're enjoying this channel, if [01:53] you're watching this channel, you want [01:54] to follow all my content, please make [01:56] sure to also follow everything that [01:58] we're putting up at Israel 365 News. [02:01] This is really where I've been posting [02:02] videos for a few years now. [02:05] We post videos almost every day. A lot [02:07] of them are my geopolitical analysis and [02:10] drilling down into what is actually [02:12] going on in Israel. What we also have [02:15] interviews. 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Each video is about 12 to [02:55] 15 minutes long [02:57] and it'll really give you a an overall [03:01] picture of what has happened in the [03:03] Middle East since October 7th. Okay. [03:07] So, [03:09] let's get over to Candace. So, I'm going [03:11] to play this video of Candace on her [03:13] show the other day [03:14] talking about my revelations [03:18] that [03:19] that Joe Kent leaked the text messages. [03:22] Now, right after I appeared on the Aaron [03:25] Milan show the the very next day [03:27] well, [03:29] the very next day Andrew Kolb, who was [03:32] Charlie's number two as you you just saw [03:34] I mentioned him there. Andrew Kolb, who [03:35] hosts the Charlie Kirk show, [03:37] who was the one who gave the text [03:39] messages to Joe Kent on the Charlie Kirk [03:42] show [03:44] talked about this and Candace is going [03:46] to play the clip of that and he [03:48] confirmed that he gave the the text [03:50] messages to Joe Kent and he went a [03:52] little bit further and Candace then [03:54] responded to this whole thing and talked [03:55] about it. Now, in what Candace says in [03:57] the clip that I'm going to share with [03:59] you, [03:59] I want to focus on three things. I'm [04:01] going to stop the video three times. [04:03] There's one where [04:05] the first time I'm going to stop it, she [04:07] engages in what we call a misdirection [04:09] play. It's a little devious move where [04:12] she sets up a straw man argument by [04:14] focusing on something that is not really [04:16] central to the topic and then using that [04:18] to attack the entire case of what she [04:21] calls the other side. Okay? So, there's [04:24] a misdirection play. There's then an [04:26] outright lie, which I'm going to expose. [04:29] And then at the end of the video she [04:30] just says something that's patently [04:31] silly and I'm going to talk about that. [04:33] So, those are the three spots where I'm [04:35] going to [04:36] where I'm going to stop the video. So, [04:37] stay with me till the end. This is a [04:38] good one. Here we So, here is [04:42] Candace Owens. Posobiec who [04:46] works with Turning Point USA in a lot of [04:48] different ways, but also is military and [04:50] has served the country and therefore, [04:52] like most military men, respect Joe [04:54] Kent's accomplishment. He came under [04:55] fire for merely listing, absent any [04:58] commentary, Joe Kent's qualifications [05:00] and his background having served this [05:02] country. This is what Jack Posobiec [05:04] wrote and I'm going to show you how [05:06] Laura Loomer responded. She He wrote, [05:08] "Joe Kent has six bronze star medals [05:10] with five oak leaf clusters across 11 [05:12] combat deployments as a Green Beret in [05:14] some of the biggest battles of the [05:16] GWOT." [05:18] And this they were infuriated. You [05:19] should see the comments under this. They [05:20] couldn't stand this. Don't you cannot [05:22] say anything good about Joe Kent. Laura [05:24] jumps [05:27] in and says, "Why are you defending a [05:29] known leaker who is undermining [05:31] President Trump?" There is now [05:33] speculation that Joe Kent may have been [05:35] leaking information to Candace Owens for [05:37] the purpose of attacking Mrs. Erica [05:40] Kirk. What are you doing? Okay, I can [05:42] tell you right now that that is [05:43] completely untrue. Joe Kent did not leak [05:46] me anything for the purpose [05:49] Joe Kent did not leak me anything [05:53] for the purpose of attacking Erica Kirk. [05:56] Right here, I believe that first of all, [05:59] Candace Owens just admitted that Joe [06:02] Kent leaked her the text messages. What [06:05] do you mean? She just said, "This is [06:07] completely untrue. Joe Kent did not leak [06:09] me anything for the purpose of attacking [06:10] Erica Kirk." You see, it is it makes no [06:13] sense that the reason for the leak was [06:16] to attack Erica Kirk, especially at the [06:19] time that the leak that Joe Kent sent [06:21] these text messages to Candace. Erica [06:23] Kirk has nothing at all to do with this. [06:25] So, what did Candace do? She knew that [06:27] she had to respond to what was being [06:29] sent to what I said and what Andrew Kolb [06:31] said and it was going viral that Joe [06:33] Kent was the one who sent her the text [06:34] messages. [06:36] She had to somehow defend him, but she [06:39] didn't want to lie and say Joe Kent did [06:41] not give me the text messages. She could [06:43] have said that. In fact, Joe Kent [06:46] himself said that. Let's take a look. [06:50] Here is [06:52] Joe Kent [06:54] saying exactly [06:56] actually denying [06:59] that he sent the text messages. [07:01] Here's the Here's the clip. Hold on a [07:03] sec. [07:04] On the Mark Levin show just the other [07:06] day. It's been a big controversy now. [07:09] Andrew Kolb now, media has covered it, [07:11] other people have covered it. He put out [07:13] a video. [07:16] He gave you text messages [07:18] confidentially. I Hold on, man. Let me [07:20] just get the question out. You can [07:22] dispute it. [07:23] >> messages to anybody. [07:25] But I have to explain it to the public. [07:27] If you if you [07:29] Hold on. So, they got they got What is [07:31] it? [07:32] Why don't you want to answer this? You [07:33] won't even let me set up the question. [07:35] He said that he gave you text messages [07:39] from Charlie Kirk all this discussion [07:42] about the Israelis and donors and so [07:44] forth that you called him and you said [07:47] make it public. [07:48] He said, "No, I'm not comfortable doing [07:50] that." And then the next thing he knows, [07:53] Candace Owens has it and she makes it [07:55] public and she's off to the races [07:58] just like you and Tucker and the rest. [08:00] Did that happen or not? [08:03] Did you give it to Candace Owens? Yes or [08:05] no? I didn't I did not give anything to [08:07] Candace Owens. No. Well, this is good to [08:09] know. So, you've never leaked. You [08:10] didn't give anything to Candace Owens. I [08:12] have a much higher regard for you now. [08:16] He has a much higher regard for him now. [08:18] Okay um [08:22] So, let's talk about that. So, here's [08:24] Joe Kent saying categorically that he [08:26] did not give the text messages to [08:29] Candace Owens. [08:30] Now, [08:31] uh [08:32] Candace Owens in what we just watched in [08:35] that in that first clip [08:38] Candace Owens said that Joe Kent did not [08:42] give her any text messages for the [08:44] purpose of harming Erica Kirk. [08:47] Okay, that's the misdirection play [08:49] because her audience hears her denying [08:51] that Joe Kent gave her the text [08:53] messages. Joe Kent never gave me any [08:54] text messages, but the end of the [08:56] sentence for the purpose of harming [08:58] Erica Kirk [09:00] which is what gave Candace the cover to [09:03] be able to say that this is a false [09:06] statement. Okay? She can say he never [09:08] gave it to me for that purpose. [09:11] If Candace wanted to deny that Joe Kent [09:14] gave her the text messages, she would [09:15] have been much clearer. She also went [09:17] around the internet yesterday after [09:19] Andrew Kolb was talking about this and [09:21] it was all over the internet, she went [09:23] and found this Laura Loomer tweet where [09:25] Laura [09:27] suggested that the reason that Joe Kent [09:29] gave her the text messages was to harm [09:31] Erica Kirk. That's what Laura said. So, [09:32] she uses Laura's conjecture that that [09:35] was the purpose [09:37] to set up why it makes no sense and [09:40] that's why this misdirection play became [09:42] a straw man argument because what she's [09:44] now going to do in the video in the next [09:45] in the next few in the next minute or so [09:48] what you're about to see, I'm just going [09:49] to I'm going to hit play and we're just [09:51] going to continue the Candace Owens [09:53] video right after she says that Joe Kent [09:56] did not give the text messages to her [09:58] for the purpose of harming Erica Kirk [10:01] because she doesn't want to give an [10:02] outright denial. She's not going to lie. [10:04] And he did give her the text messages. [10:07] She then goes ahead and attacks the [10:08] logic of [10:12] of of why this would harm Erica Kirk. [10:14] Meaning she takes Laura's comment, and [10:16] Laura doesn't know. Laura wasn't Laura's [10:18] not involved in this whole thing. [10:20] I don't I don't even know Laura. I met [10:22] Laura Loomer once very briefly. [10:24] Uh [10:26] she she then So So what she does is she [10:28] takes Laura's comment [10:30] and then turns it into the whole logic [10:34] behind the attack [10:36] and says it makes no sense. And she [10:39] paints it as the position of them, I [10:42] guess the Jews or the pro-Israel people [10:44] or the other side or whoever the [10:46] conspiracy theory is. And she she she [10:48] takes Laura's comment and makes it into [10:51] the argument the other side is making [10:53] and points out how this Erica Kirk [10:55] connection makes no sense, which it [10:56] doesn't. It doesn't make any sense. [10:58] That's why it's a straw man because her [11:00] listeners by the end of this of this [11:02] segment are like, "Yeah, the other side [11:04] doesn't make any sense." [11:06] Right? Watch. That's what she does here. [11:08] It's a great misdirection play. [11:10] mistake okay? [11:12] They don't realize that they're implying [11:15] that Erica Kirk is guilty of something. [11:18] Right? Let's Let's actually imagine what [11:20] they're saying is true. Like Joe Kent [11:22] Let's say Joe Kent is the one that [11:24] leaked me crucial information regarding [11:27] Charlie Kirk. Okay? [11:29] Yeah, let's say. Let's say. And the [11:32] investigation. [11:33] Well, how could that hurt Erica Kirk? [11:36] That should hurt [11:37] the the feds if they're lying. It could [11:39] only hurt someone who is lying to the [11:42] public about what actually occurred on [11:44] that day. The implication is that him [11:47] leaking something harmed Erica Kirk. [11:50] They're not saying he is a liar. They [11:52] are saying he's a leaker. I find that to [11:53] be interesting and they never think [11:55] through their attacks. So we got to [11:57] figure out what it is what is they're [11:59] talking about. Why are they so upset [12:00] about what Joe Kent said? How could this [12:02] harm Erica? Well, we finally were able [12:04] to determine what is it they're talking [12:05] about. You see, what did they say? Why [12:07] did they say it'll harm Erica? No one [12:10] ever said it would harm Erica except [12:12] Laura Loomer [12:13] putting that line in her tweet saying [12:16] that that's why Joe Kent did it. No one [12:17] ever said this, okay? You see how this [12:20] This is why what's called a You know [12:21] what? A straw man argument. You've [12:23] probably heard the expression before. In [12:24] case you don't know what it means, what [12:26] it means is that you take something [12:29] you you you hold up a point that the [12:32] that the people you're attacking didn't [12:33] actually say. You claim it's what they [12:36] said and then you attack it. So it it it [12:39] seems like you're attacking them. No one [12:41] ever said I never said, Andrew never [12:43] said, no one ever said that Joe Kent [12:46] leaked the text messages or likely [12:48] leaked the text [12:49] text messages as Andrew put it [12:51] that leaked them to Candace in order to [12:53] harm Erica Kirk. Laura Loomer said that. [12:55] And now Candace is saying that's what [12:57] that's their argument. So all the people [13:00] that she's attacking here are all lumped [13:02] together as part of one team who made [13:04] this assertion that Laura Loomer made [13:07] and then she attacks it and therefore [13:09] she's attacking every you know, everyone [13:11] on the other side. Okay? That's why it's [13:13] a straw man argument. A misdirection [13:15] play used as a straw man argument. [13:17] >> Because uh [13:19] Andrew Kolvet addressed the claims [13:21] directly today on Charlie Kirk's radio [13:23] show. Take a listen. [13:25] Uh the [13:27] central claim though that I want to get [13:29] to is was [13:31] Joe Kent leaking certain information. [13:34] And over the weekend a clip came up and [13:37] it's gone a little bit viral. I want to [13:39] address it. Let's go ahead and play it. [13:40] Cut 16. [13:42] The way that those [13:43] screenshots got to Candace [13:47] is via Joe Kent. Andrew Kolvet Andrew [13:51] was in the chat group as well. He was [13:53] one of the nine people in the group. And [13:55] he admitted at first to be perfectly [13:58] honest, at first he was denying it. We [13:59] didn't know how Candace got them. But [14:01] then he admitted on the air on his show [14:03] that he had given these text messages [14:05] and he gave them [14:07] to [clears throat] [14:09] He said that on the show that he gave [14:11] them to someone in the government. He [14:12] told us that that he gave them to [14:14] someone in the government. Joe Kent [14:16] was someone that we [14:19] we knew that there was a relationship [14:21] there between Charlie and Andrew and [14:22] Joe. We knew that when Charlie would [14:24] visit Washington, D.C. he would talk to [14:26] Joe. We kind of verified that the [14:29] messages had been given by Andrew to Joe [14:31] Kent and that Joe Kent had been the one [14:34] to pass them on to Candace. [14:36] All right. So verified's doing a lot of [14:39] heavy lifting there. I do want to [14:41] confirm what I can confirm and that is [14:43] that yes, in the immediate aftermath I [14:45] did provide the group chat to Joe Kent. [14:48] Uh [14:49] I [14:50] We don't throw around accusations [14:52] recklessly here. We don't. There's a lot [14:54] of people that do that online. We don't [14:56] do that. Uh we think that's keeping in [14:58] the spirit of Charlie's spirit and the [15:00] way we choose to do things is we try and [15:02] be responsible. So yes, in the spirit of [15:05] looking at every lead, turning over [15:07] every stone, we wanted everybody that [15:10] needed to know to know anything that we [15:12] knew. Not just I mean And by the way, [15:14] we've been accused of not being [15:16] interested in the truth. [15:17] >> And just to remind people what this is [15:18] referring to, this is after [15:21] Charlie's murder, there were text [15:24] messages that from a private group chat [15:26] >> Yep. that were made public [15:29] and were used to frankly kick off [15:33] the big conspiracy theory that we've run [15:35] into over and over again, which is that [15:38] Israel or the Jews had Charlie murdered. [15:41] >> Yes. So which we do not believe. [15:44] >> Which we do not believe. But we have [15:46] been accused of trying to or we're not [15:48] interested in the truth. The The The [15:50] actual fact of the matter is that behind [15:53] the scenes we have given everything we [15:55] know to give. Every single piece of [15:56] information. This was one of them. I was [15:58] told I could trust Joe Kent. I provided [16:00] the screen grabs to Joe Kent and that I [16:04] don't know what happened to them at that [16:06] point. Okay? That I just want to make [16:07] that very clear. [16:09] Eventually [16:11] Joe did message me and suggest that I [16:14] make those screen grabs public. I [16:16] declined because those were shared [16:18] privately. [16:19] I didn't want to be reckless with them [16:21] in the public. There could be innocent [16:22] people on that group chat that would [16:24] then be harmed. So I declined. But then [16:28] fast forward another week or two and [16:30] they were made public. So that's what I [16:32] know is that Joe sug- [16:34] Let me just interject a correction for [16:36] myself in my recent ex-post about this [16:39] whole situation. I said that [16:43] the next [16:44] that after Joe Kent was pressuring [16:46] Andrew to make them public, the next day [16:49] they were sent to Candace. I have no [16:51] basis for knowing that. [16:53] I just [16:54] I I I misspoke there. He says it was a [16:56] week or two later. Whatever it was. It [16:58] was shortly thereafter. suggested that [17:00] they be made public. [17:01] I declined. Then they were made public. [17:04] Can I 100% categorically say that he [17:08] leaked them? No. But those are the [17:09] facts. Maybe somebody on his team. Maybe [17:12] they got passed around. Maybe somebody [17:13] else leaked them. [17:15] But that's that those are the facts of [17:16] the matter and that's what I know. [17:19] Yeah, the part that Andrew's just [17:21] forgetting to add there is that he [17:22] himself told me about the text chain. [17:25] Andrew was telling multiple people about [17:27] the text text text chain. And I'm so [17:29] glad that he is telling the truth that [17:31] this was going around. And this is their [17:34] This is their bone to pick with Joe [17:36] Kent. This is what put a bee in their [17:38] bonnets. This is what has upset Turning [17:40] Point USA. As a refresher, Turning Point [17:43] chose to stay entirely mum on the topic [17:46] of Charlie's support for Israel and [17:49] instead allowed a force of Zionists who [17:51] were harassing him in his last days, [17:53] Zionists like Josh Hammer, to lie about [17:56] what Charlie was going through. Right? [17:58] So I came out and told the truth. Megyn [18:00] Kelly came out and told the truth. [18:01] Tucker told the truth. He was having [18:03] changing opinions on Israel. Now we're [18:05] way far down. We know how true that is. [18:07] Brett Weinstein has released his [18:08] messages about Iran. You hear Joe Kent [18:10] telling you the last time he saw him in [18:12] the White House he said that everybody [18:14] knew this. [18:15] And Turning Point did not confirm it and [18:17] allowed Zionists to lie about that. Then [18:20] I released the concrete proof in the [18:22] form of the text chain, which then [18:23] forced them to confess confess that [18:25] there was a communication that took [18:26] place less than 24 hours before Charlie [18:29] was shot and killed. [18:31] This is an outright lie. [18:34] Let me Let me review what she just said. [18:37] She just said that she released the text [18:40] exchange [18:41] which forced [18:43] us I guess that's who she's talking [18:45] about to reveal that there was a [18:47] communication less than 24 hours before [18:50] Charlie was killed. And what she's [18:52] referring to is a Zoom call [18:56] that that we had the night before [18:58] Charlie was killed. A little more on [18:59] that in a in a couple minutes. But we [19:02] had a Zoom call with Charlie the night [19:03] before. And this is critical to [19:04] Candace's whole conspiracy theory that [19:06] the night before Charlie was killed he [19:07] had a Zoom call with Josh Hammer and me [19:10] and a few other people [19:12] a couple of Charlie's producers uh to [19:14] talk about Israel issues. And this is [19:17] all key to her to her conspiracy theory. [19:19] And right there she just said that we [19:23] made that public because or after [19:27] she [19:29] revealed the text exchange. Kind of like [19:31] that we were playing defense or covering [19:32] something up. What's the problem? [19:34] Candace released those text messages on [19:37] October 6th. Okay? On October 6th. [19:40] And the Zoom call was made public [19:45] The Zoom call was made public on Here it [19:49] is. [19:53] The Zoom call was made public on [19:55] September 13th. Charlie Cook This is New [19:57] York Post. Pretty big news outlet, [19:59] right? Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk and [20:02] Rabbi Pal talked hours before his death. [20:05] Right? And [20:06] and Josh Hammer also talked about it at [20:08] the time. We went public with it. Here [20:10] this is an article there's a picture of [20:11] me and Charlie and Jack Posobiec's in [20:13] the picture and it's this is all about [20:16] the Zoom call we had the night before. [20:18] Okay? This is about 3 and 1/2 weeks [20:21] before Candace Owens ever [20:24] ever shared those text messages [20:25] publicly. [20:27] Okay? [20:28] Now, why is this important? [20:31] This is important because exactly for [20:32] the same reason that Candace said that [20:34] it was in response because Candace wants [20:36] to frame [20:38] this as we released that under pressure [20:41] and [20:43] and that that leads to some sort of [20:44] cover-up. Now, what does that mean? What [20:45] And what kind of pressure would lead us [20:46] to release this? [20:48] People know People who followed the [20:49] story know about this Zoom call. How do [20:51] they know about this Zoom call? How does [20:53] anyone in the world know about this Zoom [20:54] call? [20:55] The only public discussion of this Zoom [20:58] call that there has ever been by anyone [21:02] who is involved in it anyone who knows [21:05] anyone [21:05] I mean even people in TPUSA have never [21:07] mentioned it because they weren't [21:09] cuz anyone from that organization who's [21:11] been who was involved in that Zoom call [21:12] has never said anything about it. The [21:13] only way anyone knows that it happened [21:16] is from this New York Post story and [21:19] subsequent discussion of it by Josh [21:20] Hammer. We're the only two people who [21:22] were on the call who have ever talked [21:23] about it publicly. [21:25] Okay? [21:26] It's the only way anyone knows. If we [21:27] wanted to cover up if there was a Zoom [21:29] call the night if in that Zoom call the [21:31] night before the night before things [21:33] went really badly and that's what led to [21:36] you know [21:37] you know to you know to Charlie Kirk's [21:38] assassination the dumbest thing in the [21:40] world for us to do would be to make that [21:42] public. [21:44] Why would we ever go public with the [21:45] fact that we had that conversation if it [21:47] somehow implicates us? [21:49] It's absurd and again she's lying here [21:52] because the Zoom call was public weeks [21:54] before. [21:55] And it was talked about already online [21:57] weeks before she ever released those [22:00] text messages. Okay? So that's the lie [22:03] that she tells here and let me remove [22:05] this and we'll go back to what she has [22:07] to say. [22:08] And [22:10] yeah, here we go. It was a communication [22:12] that took place shortly before Charlie [22:14] began texting his security and Andrew [22:17] Kolvet which he also told me about that [22:18] he thought they were going to kill him. [22:20] Okay? Something that Erica initially [22:22] denied to the public. [22:24] So what we have here is that Turning [22:25] Point is angry because this made both [22:27] them and the new CEO and chairman who [22:29] also happens to be Charlie Kirk's wife [22:32] look bad. [22:33] Right? Liars hate when they get caught [22:35] but narcissistic liars rather than [22:37] repenting when they get caught get angry [22:40] and they seek revenge on the people who [22:42] expose their lies. They never feel any [22:44] shame. Okay? They don't possess any [22:45] shame. The rabbi is not ashamed that he [22:47] lied and said Charlie never blamed on [22:49] Israel. He's not ashamed that he lied. [22:51] He's angry he got caught. Josh Hammer [22:53] was angry he got caught. [22:55] Okay. [22:56] Um [22:58] This is also a lie. [23:00] This is a lie about me where she where [23:01] she she just said that the rabbi [23:04] lied when he said that Charlie never [23:07] wavered on Israel. Now, that's really [23:09] curious [23:10] because on Candace Owens' own show [23:13] months ago [23:15] she played a clip of me. [23:18] She played a clip of me and I want to I [23:20] want to play you that clip. So she [23:21] obviously knows about this because this [23:23] is from her show. [23:25] Uh and it's during the height of that [23:27] whole controversy back then. This is [23:29] from 5 months ago [23:30] and take a look. [23:33] Now, [23:34] um this is probably also a great time [23:36] referring to that little conference call [23:38] they had whatever it was a Zoom call to [23:40] tell you that that rabbi Rabbi Wolpe [23:42] was also on the now infamous text chain. [23:46] So this means that both of those [23:47] individuals knew exactly where Charlie [23:51] was at on the topic of Israel and how he [23:53] felt leading up to that moment of his [23:54] death and again like I said 2 weeks [23:56] before that in the Hamptons they knew [23:58] where he was at. Tucker Carlson told you [24:01] the truth on his stance on Bibi [24:02] Netanyahu. Nobody wants to address [24:05] or answer the question of whether or not [24:07] when Bibi Netanyahu invited him to [24:09] Israel what the context was of that. Do [24:12] you think that guy who's fighting a [24:14] 140,000 front war cuz he keeps picking [24:18] fights and pretending he's a victim [24:19] really just has time to pick up the [24:20] phone and shoot the breeze [24:22] with Charlie Kirk whose number according [24:24] to the released letter he didn't even [24:27] have in May. So what's he calling him [24:28] about? [24:29] They obviously weren't close if he [24:31] didn't have his number. Okay? So what's [24:33] he calling Charlie about? Why is he [24:35] inviting Charlie to Israel 2 weeks [24:38] before he dies? Right? Nobody will [24:40] address that Charlie said no. [24:42] He did. He said no. [24:44] He didn't flinch. He didn't wasn't even [24:46] flinching. He was just busy and couldn't [24:47] make it out to Israel or something. Now, [24:49] I will say that regarding Rabbi Wolpe [24:52] I think he has [24:54] more of a conscience and soul than Josh [24:56] Hammer. I haven't seen him promoting his [24:57] book. [24:59] Um he doesn't lie as audaciously and as [25:02] repeatedly and tweets nearly as [25:05] neurotically as Josh Hammer does. [25:08] But [25:09] I want you to listen to what he had to [25:10] say when asked whether or not Charlie [25:12] was turning on Israel. Give us our [25:13] hindsight 20/20 Rabbi Wolpe. [25:17] The wild conspiracy theories on on [25:20] social media claiming that Israel and [25:22] the Mossad are behind the assassination [25:25] of Charlie Kirk because he was turning [25:27] on Israel. Now, you spoke to him just [25:30] hours before his death. Did you feel [25:32] that that was the case that he was in [25:34] fact turning on Israel? Look, [25:37] Lidar [25:38] I was in touch with Charlie on an almost [25:40] daily basis for months. [25:42] And he certainly had [25:45] uh some disagreements with Israeli [25:47] policy and he criticized Israel where he [25:50] felt appropriate. He sometimes believed [25:53] things like a lot of people do that are [25:54] out there in the media and that was [25:55] really the substance of our relationship [25:57] was checking on things and finding out [25:59] the truth. [26:01] But that doesn't mean that he was immune [26:03] to the negative sentiments that were out [26:04] there and there were a lot of people [26:06] around him in the America First movement [26:08] who were actively working on him to try [26:10] to get him [26:11] uh to turn on Israel. But the real [26:14] answer to your question is is the [26:16] meeting that I had with him. And the [26:18] entire purpose of the meeting called by [26:20] Charlie. Charlie called this meeting and [26:22] it and it was on our schedule for weeks [26:24] was that he was going out on a campus [26:26] tour. Utah was the first stop on his new [26:28] campus tour. [26:29] And what a lot of people in Israel do [26:31] not realize or in the pro-Israel [26:33] community do not realize is that between [26:35] 40 and 50% of all of the questions and [26:40] and challenges that he would get on [26:41] these campus tours were usually about [26:44] Israel. [26:45] Cuz the campuses of course have a lot of [26:47] anti-Israel sentiment and Charlie was [26:48] known as a supporter of Israel. So he [26:51] ended up being in a position where he [26:52] was defending Israel all the time and it [26:54] drove him crazy because he wanted to [26:55] talk about America. [26:57] But he was defending Israel all the [26:59] time. So in preparation for this new [27:01] campus tour he called a meeting of a few [27:04] people that he trusted [27:05] to talk about Israel issues and to [27:08] anticipate the questions that he would [27:10] be getting the challenges that he would [27:11] be getting on this campus tour and to [27:13] make sure that he had the truth and that [27:16] he could formulate answers that he was [27:17] comfortable with. If Charlie had turned [27:20] on Israel [27:21] why would he even bother with a meeting [27:23] like that? Why would he call a meeting [27:25] with a few pro-Israel friends of his to [27:27] talk through Israel issues to make sure [27:30] that his facts were straight and his [27:32] talking points were straight so that he [27:34] could defend Israel better. If he was [27:36] turning on Israel he would have had [27:38] Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson in the [27:40] meeting planning to throw Israel under [27:41] the bus. The entire premise of the [27:44] meeting refutes that that theory. [27:50] All right. [27:53] So So think about that clip for a [27:54] second. [27:56] Does it look like did I say [28:00] Let's be honest. Did I say that Charlie [28:01] never wavered on Israel? [28:03] I think I actually said just the [28:04] opposite. I think in that clip that was [28:06] that Candace Owens played on her show. [28:09] That's from the Candace Owens show. [28:11] Okay, I was being interviewed on ILTV an [28:13] Israeli outlet. [28:15] Uh and that's why I focused on what [28:16] Israelis or the pro-Israel community [28:17] knows. [28:20] But I explicitly said in that interview [28:23] and in every interview I've given and [28:25] every time I've talked about this issue [28:26] ever since when people ask me about [28:28] Charlie's views on Israel I've never [28:29] said Charlie never wavered on Israel. On [28:31] the contrary Charlie did waver on [28:33] Israel. We all know that he wavered on [28:35] Israel. Charlie Charlie for years was [28:37] staunchly pro-Israel and in the final [28:39] months of his life especially [28:41] surrounding the Iran war he was [28:43] increasingly uncomfortable. Charlie [28:45] bought into the idea that the Israeli [28:48] government has undue influence in the in [28:50] the in the US government. He He He felt [28:53] that way. [28:54] But I'll also add [28:56] that it was a very recent development. [28:59] It was only the final months of his [29:01] life. [29:02] And it was always exacerbated or the [29:05] situation he always turned more and more [29:08] against Israel after every visit he made [29:10] to Washington D.C. and he was talking to [29:11] people there. In retrospect I wonder how [29:13] much of that was coming out of Tulsi [29:15] Gabbard's office and influencing Charlie [29:17] that way. That's a that's just pure [29:19] speculation. But let's stick to the [29:20] facts. [29:22] Candace Owens just said [29:25] a couple days ago what I just played to [29:27] you that I [29:29] lied when I said that Charlie never [29:31] wavered on Israel and she played on her [29:34] show a clip where I say explicitly that [29:36] Charlie had questions and disagreements [29:37] and and you know and wasn't always [29:39] comfortable and he and and he believed a [29:41] lot of the things that he heard online [29:42] that were negative about Israel. I [29:44] Did I not say exactly that? [29:47] Anyway, let's move on. [29:50] Go options. I have I should be allowed [29:53] to lie to the public and make it look [29:55] like Candace is crazy, right? They view [29:58] themselves as the victims when they get [30:00] caught being dishonest. Now, you should [30:02] remember liars, they are nocturnal [30:04] creatures. They hate the light. Me, I [30:07] love it. Daylight is the best [30:08] disinfectant. And I have some more [30:11] interesting information. [30:13] Yeah. [30:14] Your punishment is more truth. [30:17] Mr. Blake Neff and Andrew Kolvet. [30:20] Foremost, I'll just state this and this [30:22] could be nothing, but I do want to say [30:23] this. On September 5th, while Charlie [30:25] was away in Asia, that Rabbi Wolicki, [30:28] and Rabbi Pesach Wolicki, who was the [30:30] one who shouted me out, he had a [30:32] call with Justin Stripe and Andrew [30:34] Kolvet. I find that to be interesting [30:36] because Rabbi Wolicki does not have any [30:39] role within Turning Point USA. He claims [30:41] to be one of Charlie's personal [30:43] advisors. I don't know why he would have [30:44] a phone call with Andrew and Justin [30:46] Stripe. Why do two Catholics need to [30:48] speak to a Rabbi while Charlie's away in [30:50] Asia? Now, there could be [30:52] a reasonable explanation. I would just [30:53] like to hear it. It's another [30:54] interesting data point for me. [30:58] Okay, this is where things just get [31:00] absolutely silly. [31:01] >> [laughter] [31:02] >> Okay. Yes, on on on September 5th, [31:05] Andrew Kolvet and Justin Stripe and I [31:07] had a Zoom call. There was a fourth [31:09] person on the call. I'll say who it is. [31:10] He He certainly won't care that I'm [31:12] saying who it is. The other person on [31:13] the call was Luke Moon, uh who who leads [31:16] a Christian Zionist organization called [31:18] Generation Zion. [31:20] Um the four of us had a call. Now, think [31:23] of what Candace just said here. [31:25] Why would Why would Justin and Andrew be [31:28] talking to me if I have no official role [31:30] in Turning Point USA? Why would two [31:32] people very high up in the leadership of [31:34] Turning Point USA ever have a [31:37] conversation on Zoom with someone [31:40] outside their organization? Why would [31:42] they ever meet with someone who has no [31:44] role in Turning Point USA? [31:47] Hmm. [31:48] Uh people have work meetings with [31:50] organizations [31:51] that they collaborate with, with people [31:53] that they work with. Like it the [31:55] The question is absurd. Okay, that's [31:57] number one. [31:59] Number two, I never claimed to be an [32:00] advisor to Charlie. I was a friend of [32:02] Charlie's. We did My role in that [32:04] friendship was, yes, advising him on on [32:07] Israel. [32:08] And then, where it gets downright silly [32:10] is why would two Catholics be talking to [32:12] a Rabbi? Now, this has come up before. [32:15] A A number of months ago, another time [32:16] that that Candace was talking or what [32:19] Maybe a month and a half ago, Candace [32:20] was talking about me again, and she's [32:22] like, you know, why is Why is Charlie [32:24] talking to this Rabbi? What does he need [32:25] this Rabbi in Israel for? [32:27] Now, I don't know if she's playing dumb [32:29] or if she just didn't do any research on [32:31] me because it's pretty easy to figure [32:33] out who I am. [32:34] Let me explain. [32:36] I am an ordained Rabbi. Yes, [32:39] earlier in my professional career, I did [32:41] actually do rabbinic work. I led a [32:43] synagogue for a couple of years. [32:45] And I had a career in Jewish education [32:48] that ended over a decade ago. [32:52] I Here, [32:54] let's do it this way. [32:56] And Candace should know all this because [32:58] if you Google me for 2 seconds, you'll [33:00] know exactly this. Here is This is the [33:02] Jerusalem Post. This is my author page [33:04] on the Jerusalem Post, okay? I write [33:06] columns for the Jerusalem Post a couple [33:08] times a month. They are all about [33:11] politics, usually about geopolitics, [33:14] okay? About the Middle East. [33:16] I'm also a [33:18] a regular guest on numerous shows. [33:22] I'm a regular recurring guest, a [33:24] frequent guest on Steve Bannon's War [33:26] Room. I appear on on on TBN, the large [33:29] Christian cable network, on CBN, the [33:31] other large Christian Another large [33:33] Christian cable network. I've appeared [33:34] on Fox. I appeared on the Charlie Kirk [33:36] Show a few times. All of those [33:38] appearances, [33:40] all of my public appearances, [33:42] all of the articles that I write, both [33:43] for the Jerusalem Post and for other [33:45] outlets, I've appeared in Newsweek. [33:48] All of those articles are about [33:49] geopolitics. [33:51] I'm a political commentator. That is [33:54] what I do. [33:56] Okay? That is why Charlie had a [33:57] relationship to me. The fact that I am [33:58] an that I'm an ordained Rabbi [34:01] is nice. [34:02] And of course, my faith is very much [34:04] part of my politics, and that's part of [34:06] what [34:07] liked about the relationship and why he [34:10] why he engaged me specifically on the [34:12] issues of Israel because he he always [34:14] took a faith perspective to his [34:15] politics, and so do I. And also because [34:17] of my I I knew Charlie for years, and I [34:19] had a because of my relationship with [34:21] Steve Bannon, who Charlie was very close [34:23] to. There was I was in that circle. I've [34:24] been in that circle for years. That [34:26] picture in the New York Post piece of me [34:28] and Charlie and Jack Posobiec was taken [34:30] in 2023. [34:32] Okay? [34:34] Charlie knew me. [34:35] And Candace could do a little bit of [34:37] searching or a little bit of asking [34:38] around, and she'd understand that I am a [34:39] political commentator. That's it. [34:42] Why do Blake I'm sorry, why did Justin [34:44] and Andrew have to be having a meeting [34:46] with this Rabbi in Israel? Now, Candace [34:47] wants to know what that call was about. [34:49] Here's what it was about. [34:51] That picture in the New York Post of me [34:53] and Charlie and Jack Posobiec was taken [34:55] at a Shabbat dinner [34:58] at AmFest in 2023. [35:02] We I also hosted a Shabbat dinner for [35:05] Jewish students and some Christian [35:06] students who joined us. That's where [35:08] Generation Zion, Luke Moon, comes into [35:10] the picture. We have Christian We do a [35:12] lot of collaboration with this Christian [35:13] Zionist student organization, Generation [35:15] Zion. [35:16] And when I say we, I mean Israel 365. [35:19] And Israel 365 has been a presence at [35:21] America Fest for a number of years. We [35:23] have booth there. [35:25] Um This year, we had a media booth. [35:27] And and we run Shabbat dinners for the [35:31] Jewish participants at America Fest and [35:33] for whatever Christians want to join us [35:34] as well. And we've done this 3 years in [35:37] a row. [35:38] And the reason that we had a Zoom call, [35:41] this this [35:42] secret Zoom call with Justin and Andrew [35:45] and Rabbi Wolicki 5 days before Charlie [35:46] was killed. No, the Zoom call was about [35:50] America Fest. We were planning a few [35:51] months ahead because America Fest was [35:53] coming up. [35:55] And once again, Israel 365 and [35:58] Generation Zion were planning to do a [35:59] Shabbat dinner. But this year, because [36:01] Charlie's book about Shabbat was going [36:03] to be released around the time of [36:05] America Fest, [36:06] there was We were having conversations [36:09] with them about how we should structure [36:11] the Shabbat dinner, what it should look [36:13] like, [36:14] to what extent will [36:16] will we lead it, to what will, you know, [36:18] and and what what What will the [36:19] cooperation between Turning Point USA [36:22] and and our team look like, you know, [36:24] for the Jewish students. [36:26] That was what the call was about. It was [36:27] about logistics and about planning, and [36:30] that's what it was about. [36:32] Planning for America Fest. Great. That's [36:34] the big reveal, Candace. Now you know [36:35] what it is. [36:37] And by the way, the Shabbat dinner [36:39] Candace could have known all of this so [36:41] easily. The Shabbat dinner that we did [36:42] at America Fest this year was also [36:44] covered in the media. Right? Here's the [36:46] Here's the story. [36:48] Let me put this up. [36:50] Here. [36:51] Here's the story in Fox News. [36:53] Fox News did an article. David Marcus, [36:55] the columnist at Fox News, did an [36:57] article about this, [36:59] about the Jewish about Jews at Turning [37:02] at Turning Point. And the article leads [37:03] with [37:04] the energy in the room, Friday night [37:07] Phoenix Shabbat dinner. Talks about me. [37:09] Talks about everything that we did [37:10] there. Okay? [37:11] That [37:12] Now, in the end, there wasn't a big [37:14] Turning Point Shabbat dinner hosted by [37:16] Turning Point surrounding the book [37:17] because Charlie was killed and and and [37:19] and there was a lot of other things [37:20] going on. And in the end, Andrew and [37:23] Justin, they just basically said to us, [37:25] you go do your thing. We're in full [37:27] support of what you're doing, but we're [37:28] not but we don't have the bandwidth to [37:30] be participating in a Shabbat dinner [37:31] right now. So, we hosted a Shabbat [37:33] dinner at America Fest. There was a [37:34] bunch of speakers. A few hundred people [37:35] were there. That is what that call was [37:38] about. Okay, let's let Candace finish [37:40] up. [37:42] bigger. [37:43] Actually, something that is explosive. [37:45] It's massive, and it may even involve [37:47] those pesky little Egyptian planes [37:50] that were following Turning Point Faith [37:52] events for years. And this most [37:55] definitely will require a response from [37:57] Turning Point USA. [38:01] Well, there you have it. That's [38:02] Candace's segment [38:04] about the Egyptian planes or conspiracy [38:06] theories, and I hope I've cleared some [38:08] things up. [38:09] Uh but there you have it. So, just to [38:11] sum up, we had a uh [38:14] we had a a misdirection play that was [38:16] really to build a straw man argument [38:19] where she where she [38:20] gave a denial that wasn't a denial, [38:22] saying that Joe Kent never leaked or [38:23] anything for the purpose of harming [38:25] Erica Kirk, which she then attacked the [38:27] logic of that as a way of attacking the [38:30] whole other side. That was the [38:31] misdirection play and [38:33] and straw man. She then went ahead and [38:36] outright lied, saying that the [38:38] revelation about the Zoom call, the [38:39] public making the Zoom call public, was [38:42] in response to her releasing the text [38:44] messages. And in fact, that Zoom call [38:46] was was widely known in public [38:49] almost a month [38:51] before she ever released those text [38:53] messages. So, that was just an outright [38:54] lie. She also lied when she said that I [38:58] that I lied by saying that Charlie never [39:01] wavered on Israel, and I've never said [39:02] that Charlie never wavered on Israel. [39:04] I've said just the opposite, and she [39:05] played it on her own show. [39:08] And then finally, at the end there, her [39:10] silliness of wondering what the Zoom [39:12] call was about between me and Andrew and [39:13] Justin, which I've just told you. I hope [39:16] this is all very helpful, and that you [39:17] enjoyed this video. Please subscribe to [39:19] my channel, and please [39:22] spread the word. [39:23] And yeah, maybe we'll be talking about [39:25] this some more. Who knows Who knows [39:26] what's going to happen next in this [39:28] crazy saga.
