Transcript [00:00] This is the turning point of the war, [00:04] the most pivotal moment according to [00:07] Rabbi Pesak Wiki. And let me tell you, [00:10] ladies and gentlemen, he is rarely [00:12] wrong. Why this matters so much? He [00:16] reveals all. Plus, JD Vance, [00:21] does he have a problem with being [00:24] condescending? [00:27] A top insider [00:29] from the prime minister's office [00:32] says yes. Go. [00:35] Rabbi, it is so wonderful to have you. [00:38] Of course, you run the channel, Rabbi [00:40] Pesak Wiki. Uh, just as creatively named [00:42] as this show here, I might add, but the [00:45] episode that you've just put up, superb. [00:47] Congratulations on everything you're [00:49] doing. And welcome to the Aaron Mullen [00:51] Show. [00:52] >> Thank you, Erin. Always an honor to be [00:54] with you. Thank you for having me. [00:56] Iran is panicking. Tell me why. [01:00] Well, I think that we've seen a major [01:04] major turning point in this war that [01:06] because, you know, there's been so many [01:08] stops and starts in the kinetic fighting [01:11] and and then in between we have these [01:13] blockades that sort of feel they feel to [01:16] many of us like a like a stalemate [01:18] because, you know, we're sitting here [01:19] with our popcorn watching this and and [01:22] the only thing that really looks like [01:24] progress to us uh you know, in a shallow [01:28] kind of way is when there's actual ual [01:30] kinetic attacks. But this hasn't been a [01:33] stalemate at all. And literally over the [01:35] last week, less than a week, we have [01:37] seen what I believe is the major turning [01:40] point in this war. I'm not pred I'm not [01:42] making a prediction that the regime is [01:44] going to collapse tomorrow. But I think [01:46] we've seen a major change. And let me [01:48] explain. [01:49] A few days ago, [01:52] what is it? Two days ago now, the [01:54] Iranians [01:56] attempted to launch rockets. They were [01:59] planning to launch rockets carrying [02:01] mines that would remine the straight of [02:04] Hormuz. [02:05] >> And the Americans uh the Americans saw [02:08] that they were doing this because [02:09] they've been watching their every move. [02:11] >> They attacked those rocket launch sites [02:13] on the land on the island of Larak which [02:16] is right in the straight of Hormuz. And [02:18] when the Americans attacked those sites, [02:20] the Iranians responded by attacking [02:23] American bases in Jordan. And we have [02:25] more kinetic activity. and the kinetic [02:26] activity continues now. But what's so [02:29] significant about this is when you think [02:31] about the whole war and what this [02:35] signals from the Iranians, I believe it [02:37] signals that first of all the straight [02:39] of hormuz is wide open. [02:42] >> Yeah. [02:42] >> Meaning that it is really basically [02:44] under the control of the Americans. It [02:46] signals that they basically admitted it [02:48] >> and that they are absolutely panicking [02:51] because they they've run out of other [02:54] options. Let me explain. that there [02:56] hadn't been any kinetic activity. There [02:58] had been no actual bombing since the end [03:01] of July, [03:02] >> a month. [03:03] >> And when you think about it from Iran's [03:04] perspective, even though they're under [03:06] this financial strain of the economic [03:09] D-Day that the US Treasury is carrying [03:11] out on them, they had no interest right [03:13] now in escalating things kinetically in [03:16] getting bombed more by the Americans. It [03:18] doesn't serve their interests. They do [03:20] want to mess up Trump in the midterms. [03:22] And for that reason, a lot of people [03:23] have been predicting that they would [03:25] escalate right around the time of the [03:26] midterms. But the midterms are still [03:27] pretty far away. [03:29] >> The midterms are still two months away. [03:31] This is not the time for the Iranians to [03:33] be escalating kinetically. And why are [03:35] they if they want to put mines in the [03:37] straight of Hormuz? Why are they doing [03:39] it by launching rockets with mines on [03:41] them to in order to install them? That's [03:43] not how you install mines. The way you [03:45] install mines is you go out on a boat [03:46] and you drop the mines in various [03:48] locations. [03:50] and and the Iranians have been claiming [03:52] for the last few weeks, ever since Trump [03:54] said the straits of Hormuz are open, [03:56] they're under American control. And he [03:58] always admitted that, you know, the [04:00] Iranians could still fire a drone or [04:01] some projectile at a ship at any point. [04:04] I mean, you can't get rid of every guy [04:05] with something on his shoulder that he [04:07] could fire a rocket. You're never you're [04:09] never going to you're never going to get [04:10] there. But the Iranians have been [04:13] claiming that the straits are actually [04:14] closed and they love to put out a news [04:17] story every time they disrupt shipping. [04:20] Every time they disrupt any boat, [04:21] anytime any ship comes under attack, [04:23] there's a there's a news item on the [04:24] Iranian state media. You know, this ship [04:26] got stuck and that ship got stuck and [04:28] and they'll quote all the various um [04:31] maritime monitoring organizations about [04:34] how they've stopped the the ships [04:35] because it feeds their narrative that [04:36] the straits of Hormuz are closed. So, we [04:38] saw that the Iranians suddenly are [04:42] launch they're risking American kinetic [04:45] attack because they know the Americans [04:46] are watching them by setting up rockets [04:49] to launch brand new mines into the [04:51] straight. Now, if that that obviously is [04:53] an admission [04:55] that there's no mines in the straight [04:56] because if if the straight of Formus was [04:58] actually closed and there were mines all [05:00] over the place, what are they launching [05:01] mines on on rockets to try to put them [05:04] into the water? So obviously [05:06] the when when the Americans said that [05:08] they cleared out all the mines that's [05:10] correct and when you think about why the [05:12] Iranians would risk inviting American [05:15] kinetic attacks against them at this [05:17] point where there's no negotiations [05:18] going on. You know during all the months [05:20] when Trump kept saying he's trying to [05:22] bring them back to the negotiating table [05:25] and it then and and our criticism fairly [05:27] was he's not really driving towards [05:29] victory. He's just trying to get them [05:30] back to make a deal. During that time, [05:33] we understood why the Iranians were kind [05:35] of keeping Trump on a string and doing a [05:36] little bit of escalation and pretending [05:38] they want to make a deal and then [05:40] backing out at the last minute. We [05:41] understood that. But right now, Trump [05:43] has actually said that there's no [05:44] negotiations and he's not trying to make [05:46] a deal. Scott Bessant said that the goal [05:48] now is actually to bring down the [05:50] regime, to collapse it. And right before [05:53] we got on uh right before I came into [05:55] your studio, Aaron, just now, I don't [05:58] know, it must maybe it happened while I [05:59] was sleeping, but just in the last few [06:01] hours, Trump has actually put out a [06:03] truth social post calling on the Iranian [06:05] people to come back out into the [06:07] streets. Something that we've been [06:08] waiting for since day one of the war. [06:10] Now, I don't know if that means he's [06:11] going to give them the air cover they [06:12] need and and he's gonna he's going to [06:14] protect them from the IRGC, but the fact [06:17] is we're now talking about regime [06:18] change. So, when I look at the Iranian [06:20] behavior, I say, "Wait a second. [06:22] They obviously lost control of the [06:24] straits of war moves completely. [06:26] >> Correct. [06:27] >> And and and that's and that's why [06:28] they're doing this desperation move [06:31] because they need somehow to to you know [06:34] to see if they can if they can disrupt [06:36] things or regain control of it. This is [06:38] no way to regain control of it. And [06:40] here's a big tell that I picked up on [06:42] and I turned out to be vindicated. [06:44] >> They put out a news item the morning [06:45] after the Americans attacked these [06:48] rocket launch sites that were trying to [06:51] They were trying to put mines. The [06:53] morning after that, there was a news [06:55] item on Iranian state media. I read [06:58] Erin, I read Iranian regime media, their [07:00] propaganda every single day. Now, a lot [07:03] of people might think it's a waste of [07:04] time, but it's absolutely not. [07:07] >> One of the it it it can sound ironic. [07:09] Some people would say, "What? You know, [07:10] you're reading it's just propaganda." [07:12] That's exactly the point. If I read the [07:14] Washington Post or the New York Times, I [07:15] don't know the policies of the United [07:17] States of America based on the editorial [07:19] position of those papers necessarily. [07:21] But when I read media coming out of a [07:23] totalitarian regime where there's no [07:25] freedom of the press, I know that [07:28] whatever I'm reading is deliberate [07:30] messaging by the regime. [07:32] >> And therefore, of course, I don't take [07:33] it at face value. But if you understand [07:36] that going in and you read between the [07:38] lines, you can actually see what they're [07:40] doing and what narrative they're [07:41] pushing. That's the It's actually [07:43] extremely valuable if you're following [07:45] the conflict in Iran, read Iranian state [07:47] media. Now, you have to read it [07:49] critically. You have you have to know [07:50] what you're reading. So, there was a [07:52] news item the morning after these [07:54] attacks out of Iran that said that a a [07:58] tanker passing through the straight of [07:59] Hormuz was on fire because it hit a [08:01] mine. Okay. And in the item it mentioned [08:06] uh it quotes the head of the IRGC saying [08:08] the straits of Hormuz are closed and [08:11] that there are consequences for anyone [08:12] who goes through there. [08:15] But conspicuously missing in the article [08:17] was where exactly it happened and any [08:21] information about the tanker. [08:23] And it's conspicuous because as I told [08:26] you, every single day or every single [08:29] time they strike a tank or every single [08:31] time they disrupt shipping in the [08:32] straight of Hormuz, they always mention [08:35] the ship. They mention the name of the [08:37] ship. They'll mention the flag that the [08:39] ship was flying. They'll mention where [08:41] it took place. They'll they'll quote [08:43] from the maritime uh uh from the [08:47] maritime tracking organizations that are [08:49] that confirm that a ship was disrupted. [08:52] And in this article, there was none of [08:54] that information. It was just a claim by [08:56] the Iranians that a ship, lo and behold, [08:59] the morning after they were trying to [09:01] launch mines on rockets and the [09:02] Americans hit them for it. Lo and [09:04] behold, a ship was in flames for hitting [09:06] a mine. And I said in this video that [09:09] you mentioned, I said at the time, I [09:11] said, "I believe that this is a lie, [09:13] that no ship ever hit a mine, that they [09:15] made this up because the telltale signs [09:18] of of an actual uh altercation of a ship [09:21] with a mine, that would be the name of [09:24] the ship, where it happened, all these [09:26] other details were absent from the [09:27] article. And then just last night I saw [09:30] that Sentcom put out a statement that [09:33] they looked into it and the Iranian [09:35] reports of a ship hitting a mine were [09:37] false. So if you put all of this [09:38] together, the Iranians are in a panic [09:41] and they are they are their one piece of [09:44] leverage. The closing of the Straits of [09:46] Hormuz has been taken away from them and [09:48] they've basically announced it to us [09:50] with these actions. So that's why I say [09:52] they're panicking. I really believe that [09:54] we are moving to a point where the end [09:57] is really near. When regimes collapse, [09:59] Aaron, whether it's uh Gaddafi in Libya [10:01] or or the Soviet Union or what happened [10:04] with Assad, it always takes us by [10:06] surprise. Even though there's [10:07] instability ahead of it, we it always [10:10] takes us by surprise. We do not know [10:12] when this regime is actually going to [10:13] collapse. I [10:14] >> I think you're absolutely spot on. And [10:17] you're right to reference Scott Bessant [10:19] as well who is I mean you listen to over [10:22] the last 48 hours some of the things [10:23] he's said would lead you to believe that [10:26] it's not an arrogance but there's a [10:28] certain confidence about the [10:30] administration and Donald Trump's truth [10:32] social post messages now that has been [10:35] absent I think up until this point and [10:38] Trump is now not even entertaining the [10:40] prospect of a deal. Trey Yinst on Fox [10:43] all, you know, he has a great [10:44] relationship with Trump. He quotes him [10:46] all the time. And he's not even saying, [10:47] "Oh, well, well, you know, they'll [10:49] figure it out. We're open to it. You [10:51] know, they're desperate for one." He's [10:52] saying, "It's just not not even we don't [10:55] want one anymore." I I'll read out, [10:57] Rabbi, cuz you referenced it. This is [10:59] the truth social post for those who [11:01] haven't seen it yet. Donald Trump says, [11:03] "I'm not trying to force Iran to the [11:05] bargaining table as ABC fake news [11:07] reported. I couldn't care less if they [11:09] sign a worthless to them agreement. I [11:11] like our position now much better with [11:13] almost total control of the Hmoose [11:14] Strait and their economy totally [11:16] collapsing. They are just playing out [11:18] the inevitable. When are the Iranian [11:20] people going to rise up and fight? See, [11:23] that gives me shivers because I know [11:25] like you, we we care deeply about them. [11:28] We know that the the vast majority of [11:30] people despise this regime and give them [11:33] a chance. Look how many of them were [11:35] willing to die for it before they had [11:37] any help or any chance or this regime [11:39] was close to full strength. Now look at [11:42] it. Trump again is saying go. But will [11:44] they trust him rabbi? Because he said [11:47] that a little while before and people [11:49] lost a bit of faith in the aftermath. [11:51] But it was never going to be a simple [11:53] straightforward quick fix, was it? [11:57] >> Well, yeah, that's I mean that's the big [11:58] question. You let's go back to day one [12:00] of the war. Trump stands up at the mics. [12:03] Remember, he was wearing that white hat, [12:05] >> that white baseball cap. And he gave an [12:07] 8-minute speech. And in that 8-minute [12:09] speech, he laid out four military [12:11] objectives of the war. Destroy the navy, [12:13] destroy the ballistic missiles, destroy [12:15] the nuclear program, and make it [12:17] impossible for Iran to continue to fund [12:19] their proxy network of terrorist [12:21] organizations. That was the four [12:23] military objectives. He then turn he [12:26] then spoke to the members of the IRGC [12:29] and he said, "Lay down your weapons or [12:30] face certain death." And that was a [12:32] little bit disappointing because we [12:33] never they never really went after the [12:35] IRGC. [12:36] Uh and then he spoke to the Iranian [12:38] people and he said your hour of freedom [12:41] is at hand. And then he talked about how [12:43] we are going, he didn't lay it out as an [12:45] official objective of the war, but he [12:47] said we are going to create the [12:49] conditions where you can come to out [12:52] back out into the streets when the time [12:54] is right and you'll be able to take back [12:56] control of your country. So when people [12:58] say that Trump hadn't talked about [12:59] regime change, he did talk about regime [13:01] change on day one, but then he backed [13:03] away from it and then he started [13:04] negotiating with the leaders of the [13:06] regime. And we talked about this a lot, [13:07] you and I, Erin, about how this was this [13:09] was kind of throwing the Iranian people [13:11] under the bus. Now during the first 40 [13:14] days of of uh of fighting when Israel [13:17] was was side by side with the Americans [13:19] what we call epic fury or roaring lion [13:22] depending on which country's name you [13:23] take [13:24] >> during those 40 days for the last it was [13:27] so it was about five and it was about [13:29] five and a half weeks [13:31] >> during the last three weeks of that the [13:33] Israelis the Americans were already [13:36] focused on the straight of Hormuz at [13:37] that point because the Iranians had shut [13:39] it and the Israelis [13:42] were not really carrying out the same [13:44] type of strikes as the Americans. They [13:45] were going after the IRGC. They were [13:48] bombing the IRGC and besiege, that's the [13:50] stormtroopers who really do the killing. [13:52] The IRGC and besiege checkpoints, [13:55] literally the checkpoints where a few [13:57] soldiers would be sitting at some [13:58] checkpoint in Tehran. They were going [14:00] overhead with drones and they were [14:03] attacking those positions. They were [14:05] attacking the the uh the headquarters [14:07] and the training bases of the IRGC. They [14:10] were going after the IRGC itself. And [14:12] that's really what's been missing from [14:13] everything the Americans have done since [14:15] then was what the Israelis were doing. [14:17] And the Israelis also at the time said [14:20] publicly, the defense minister said the [14:22] defense minister Katz said that Israel [14:24] would provide air cover for the Iranian [14:27] people to protect them from the IRGC and [14:29] the besiege in when the time came for [14:32] them to come out into the streets. And [14:34] that and that and we know how necessary [14:35] that is. The Iranian people cannot go [14:37] back out into the streets when the [14:39] besiege and the IRGC still have the [14:40] machine guns. Though with everything [14:42] that Trump is doing, those guys still [14:44] have the weapons. So, it's very nice to [14:46] call the Iranian people out into the [14:48] street. My question is, are they going [14:50] to be provided with any kind of air [14:52] cover? Is there can they actually do it? [14:55] Because without attacking the IRGC now, [14:57] if without attacking the IRGC, they [15:00] still are not going to have uh the [15:01] ability to topple the regime from [15:03] within. [15:04] >> Sentence. [15:05] >> Yeah. Yeah. [15:06] >> Did you notice that Trump had said like [15:08] tens of thousands, 30,000, [15:11] a 100,000 is a number that he's quoted [15:14] recently as well in terms of Iranians [15:16] killed by this Islamic regime of Iran. [15:20] >> Yeah. Look, I don't know where his [15:22] numbers are from, but he is the [15:23] president of the United States. He's [15:24] privy to numbers that the rest of us are [15:26] not. [15:26] >> Absolutely. [15:27] >> And to details the rest of the rest of [15:28] us are not. Um, look, I I've spoken to a [15:32] number of people who still know people [15:34] back in in Iran who are connected to the [15:37] to the people on the ground in Iran, and [15:39] they also say that they don't know, no [15:41] one really knows the numbers. There's no [15:43] no one ever did an official count of how [15:45] many people they killed. The Iranians [15:47] are not going to keep those records. And [15:48] we know that they were destroying [15:50] bodies. Uh, they were taking bodies out [15:52] of hospitals where they had died and [15:54] destroying them where families don't [15:56] even know what happened to their loved [15:57] ones. But what the people I know uh who [16:00] are connected in Iran are saying is that [16:03] everybody in the country [16:05] >> says that the numbers are even higher [16:07] than anyone is saying because they know [16:09] everyone knows someone who was killed [16:11] >> on on those days on was it January 8th [16:14] and 9th I think it was uh way back [16:16] there. So who knows the numbers could be [16:18] 100,000. So, it's very nice that [16:20] President Trump is calling them back out [16:21] into the streets and it definitely and [16:23] he's definitely being open about wanting [16:24] to bring down the regime and these are [16:26] welcome changes. [16:27] >> Agreed. [16:28] >> But again, without the air cover, [16:30] without providing some support for the [16:31] people, [16:32] >> the regime could stay in power. Not not [16:35] long term. I think they really are on [16:36] the road to collapse and it's imminent. [16:38] >> Uh but we shouldn't be rejoicing just [16:40] yet. [16:41] >> No. And I I look, I I'm really comforted [16:43] by the change in tone and rhetoric and [16:45] the fact that the US is now owning [16:47] regime change, even if they're still [16:49] using a few more words than they need [16:50] to. A and and maybe this is Trump said, [16:53] "Wait till I give you the go-ahad." [16:55] Maybe this is it. And there are things [16:56] that we're not privy to in regards to [16:58] what the Israelis may be doing already [17:00] for and what the Americans are as well. [17:02] Uh, Rabbi, I can't let you go without [17:04] also getting your take on JD Vance and [17:07] the I mean, for starters, I'm sorry, but [17:10] I am not the vice president of any [17:12] country, and I am not even close to that [17:14] level. But I don't even have a [17:16] conversation with a school mother [17:17] without thinking in my head, if this was [17:20] on the front page of the paper, would I [17:22] be proud? Nothing is off the record. A [17:25] year 2 school mother at my kid's school, [17:28] I don't trust something's not going to [17:29] be leaked. How did he ever think that a [17:32] thousand people at an event, why was it [17:34] deemed to be off the record? I mean, [17:36] it's clearly been leaked. He knew it was [17:38] going to be leaked. I don't get that [17:39] part of it, let alone then what happened [17:42] after that. Can you explain that to me [17:43] why it was suddenly off the record? No, [17:46] no journalists, no reporting of it. [17:50] >> Well, listen, I I think that JD Vance is [17:52] a true believer. Uh, you know, we, you [17:54] know, everyone is is is kind of hoping [17:56] that, oh, he's going to distance himself [17:59] from these people, from from Tucker [18:01] Carlson and from that crowd. [18:04] >> He's one of them. Why would he distance [18:07] himself from them? He actually he's a [18:09] true believer. Look at the things that [18:10] he said on on Joe Rogan, you know, you [18:13] or Israel can't kill itself out of uh [18:16] out of Lebanon or I don't know if that [18:18] was on Rogan, but you know, ALS the [18:20] things that he was saying about the [18:21] Israelis u you know and and making up [18:26] this false claim that there were Israeli [18:27] cabinet ministers who were attacking [18:29] President Trump personally because of [18:31] the criticism of theou. There have been [18:33] a number of times where he has said [18:34] things that really show that [18:36] unfortunately I think he buys into a lot [18:39] of a lot of the attitudes coming out of [18:41] Tucker and his crowd. And I don't think [18:44] he's going to distance himself from [18:45] them. I I think he also he I think he [18:48] he's so embedded in that younger [18:50] generation that has uh you know that has [18:52] kind of you know that is so influenced [18:55] by Tucker and his crowd. He's so [18:56] embedded in there that he really [18:58] believes that this is the future of [18:59] politics in America and that he's [19:01] choosing the winning side. Uh I don't [19:03] think he's going to distance himself [19:05] from these people and the efforts to do [19:06] so really it you know to someone like JD [19:09] Vance it just feels like an attempt to [19:11] cancel him. He would lose all [19:13] credibility with his base if he were to [19:15] distance himself from Tucker Carlson. [19:17] And that puts him between a rock and a [19:19] hard place because the older generation [19:21] of the Republican party, the ones who [19:23] who really vote uh are are very [19:26] uncomfortable. And and when I say the [19:27] ones who really vote, take a look at [19:28] what happened in the primaries. Look [19:30] what happened to Thomas Massie. Look [19:31] what happened down in Florida where Dan [19:33] Bilzerian, [19:34] >> you know, fell into the same mistake of [19:36] thinking that online world [19:39] >> is the same world as the real world of [19:41] electoral politics and he got trounced. [19:43] >> And this is happening all across the [19:44] country. I don't know what the future [19:46] holds. Marco Rubio has still insists [19:48] that he's not running for president. We [19:50] don't know who else is going to emerge, [19:51] but I think the Republican I think the [19:53] Republican party leadership has got to [19:56] realize that that they will lose in 2028 [19:59] if this guy is their candidate. And I'm [20:02] sure that they're having some real [20:03] conversations. [20:05] >> Do Do you think I mean it felt like he [20:07] was saying it's okay, Jews, you're just [20:09] a little bit sensitive. It's okay for us [20:12] to disagree. I mean, I've never met a [20:14] group of people who disagree with each [20:16] other more than than the Jewish [20:18] community that I've gotten to know over [20:19] the past couple of years. You're fierce [20:21] debaters. You see, you know, that it's [20:24] not about being overly sensitive or [20:26] disagreeing. The issue that Jews and and [20:28] normal Americans have with the likes of [20:30] Tucker Carlson extends well beyond that. [20:33] I found that condescending and to be [20:35] honest, offensive, and I'm not Jewish. [20:37] >> Well, JD Vance has a condescension [20:39] problem. Yeah. [20:41] >> When he visited Israel, [20:43] >> when he visited Israel a number of [20:44] months back, uh they it was incredible [20:48] like the interviews that he gave were so [20:50] condescending. [20:51] >> Yeah. Um, and you know when he was I [20:53] remember at the time the Knesset was uh [20:57] was discussing a a plan that related to [21:02] Judea and Samaria and uh and and there [21:04] was a call for for uh sovereignty in [21:07] Judea in the in in certain areas of [21:09] Judea and Samaria. And his reaction to [21:12] it when asked about it was was basically [21:16] to, you know, to criticize the Israeli [21:19] legislature, which represents the [21:21] Israeli people, [21:22] >> in the in the most petty way, talking [21:25] about how he felt personally insulted. [21:26] Like what is this? You think when the [21:28] Knesset's deliberating over sovereignty [21:30] in Judea and Samaria, it has anything to [21:32] do with JD Vance? Like that you feel [21:34] personally insulted by it. [21:35] >> He he has a real condescension problem. [21:38] And I also heard from people who who [21:40] were uh who were in the government, who [21:42] were in the prime minister's office uh [21:45] during that visit that they could not [21:46] believe the condescension coming out of [21:48] JD Vance. [21:49] >> Uh so uh I don't know if I was supposed [21:51] to say that, but uh [laughter] [21:53] >> but that's something that No, it's it's [21:55] a real problem, Erin. He he he has this [21:58] condescension issue, [21:59] >> and I think it comes from um I think [22:01] it's actually a sign of his insecurity [22:04] because he he's a political novice. Uh [22:07] he's still very new to the political [22:08] scene. He served just over a year in the [22:10] Senate. That was the sum total of his [22:12] life as an elected official before being [22:14] chosen as vice presidential candidate. [22:17] And you know, he might be the Republican [22:19] Obama, someone who really doesn't have a [22:20] lot of political experience, who's very [22:22] ideologically driven [22:23] >> and is somewhat full of himself. There's [22:25] some of those same personality traits in [22:26] Obama we see here in JD Vance. [22:29] >> Um yeah, on the except for the fact that [22:31] I don't think he can win and Obama won a [22:33] couple times. [22:34] >> Yeah. I I hope you're right. You [22:36] generally are, my friend. Uh, such an [22:38] honor to have you on. I'm going to link [22:39] Rabbi Pesakwiki's YouTube channel in the [22:42] description. You got to check it out. [22:44] Obviously, only ever after you watch my [22:46] show first. Rabbi, thank you as always. [22:49] is looking forward to our next chat.
