Transcript [00:00] I am uh very proud and honored to [00:02] actually bring a young Iranian voice to [00:06] our program today. Uh and his name is [00:09] Eunice. Okay, he's a that's a great [00:12] name. Ununice Saddak Sadakani. I hope I [00:16] pronounced that correctly and he's going [00:18] to correct me. He's a political [00:19] broadcaster, investigative journalist, [00:21] analyst with o over 13 years of [00:23] experience in media. Uh he was born in [00:25] Iran but now resides in the UK. a good [00:28] combo for the accent. Uh, an outspoken [00:30] critic of the Islamic Republic. Ununice, [00:32] welcome to the show. Thanks so much for [00:34] being with us. [00:35] >> Thanks for having me, Shai. It's a [00:36] pleasure. [00:37] >> How do you pronounce your last name [00:38] correctly? Please help me. [00:39] >> Sadani. [00:41] >> Sadigani. [00:42] >> In Farsy, it's actually Sadarani, but we [00:46] don't have the sound in English. So, the [00:48] the H is silent basically. So, Sadani. [00:51] >> No, but say it in the Persian way. [00:53] >> Unai. [00:56] Yeah. Okay. You know, I got to tell you [00:58] something. We um here at my household, [01:01] one of our favorite shows is Tahhran. [01:03] Have you ever watched the show Tehran? [01:04] >> Of course. I actually actors from it. [01:07] Actually, I met them in Israel. [01:09] >> We we're crazy about the show. It's like [01:11] it's like a thing. It's it's one of the [01:13] most exciting, you know, series uh about [01:16] trying to undermine that regime. So, I'm [01:18] I'm sure you watched it because in part, [01:20] >> isn't that what your life is about? [01:22] Trying to break down that regime. our [01:24] our our our guest, we'll talk about that [01:26] in a second. Our guest just now, Dr. [01:27] Kheddar, he said that it's very, it [01:30] could very well be that if the regime, [01:33] >> the current Moola regime goes away that [01:36] the country might be broken up into many [01:37] subc countries. Um and he you know we we [01:41] we put up this map here where you saw [01:43] all the different [01:44] >> folks like Turkmen or Kurd 10% of the [01:47] country's Kurd or Belaluchcci or Poshune [01:50] even a little bit or and and and Persian [01:52] Azeri. So you know we see that that this [01:55] country uh has a lot of uh a lot of [01:58] different nationalities that could break [02:00] up into into small substates instead of [02:02] one one Iran. So tell me a little bit [02:04] about about what it's been like for you [02:06] to fight against the regime and tell me [02:10] what it's like in the last few weeks. A [02:14] seeing that people are being murdered in [02:15] the streets. [02:16] >> Iranian officials now admit the death [02:18] toll from protests since late December [02:20] now stands at more than 5,000. That [02:23] number is expected to rise. [02:25] >> And you know what pisses me off that so [02:27] many people just don't care. They just [02:29] don't care. You know, if if one [02:31] Palestinian journalist, supposed [02:33] journalist who's actually a jihadi, is [02:35] is is killed, they make a big deal. But [02:37] the fact that 20,000 people are being [02:39] murdered in the streets, people don't [02:40] care. Tell me about the last few weeks, [02:42] how you've been feeling and how this [02:44] this fight has been going and are you [02:46] excited for for the coming moments. [02:49] >> Wow, so many questions. So, first off, [02:52] uh just to answer your last question, [02:54] yes. It's amazing how morally bankrupt [02:57] these people are because they've been [02:58] screaming about Palestine and how Israel [03:01] is a genocidal state and how Palestine [03:03] has been occupied. But in reality, it's [03:06] Iran that has been occupied by the [03:08] Islamic Republic for the last 47 years. [03:11] That's where the real apartheite is. [03:13] That's where this an apartheite for [03:15] Christians and apartheite for Jews. It's [03:17] an apartheite for women. But you don't [03:20] have any of these left-wing woke mind [03:23] virus Islamist [03:26] students coming and standing with the [03:28] people of Iran. You know what the ironic [03:29] thing is? Is the people within Iran that [03:32] are rising up. They are protesting. So [03:35] it basically ticks all the progressive [03:37] boxes. You are you have a bunch of [03:40] people that are standing up against the [03:42] tyrant. They're being shot in the [03:43] street. They're being oppressed. They [03:44] live in under an apartheid state. They [03:46] don't have freedom of speech, freedom of [03:48] expression. So, where are all the [03:49] liberals? I thought this is what the [03:51] progressive and the liberals were all [03:52] about. But obviously, that's not what [03:55] they're all about. They just have a [03:57] derangement towards Israel. They have a [04:00] derangement towards the Palestinian [04:01] cause. And they don't realize that the [04:04] reason why Palestinian are oppressed is [04:06] because of Hamas. The reason why [04:09] Iranians are oppressed is because of the [04:11] Islamic Republic. So, and also we need [04:14] international support. So now going to [04:15] your other question where you was [04:17] speaking about you know Iran being [04:19] divided into many different subsects. I [04:22] really hope that doesn't happen because [04:25] if that happens it will be a bloodbath. [04:27] It's going to be a similar situation to [04:29] what happened in Iraq and Syria and we [04:31] don't want that. We don't want a vacuum. [04:33] We don't want a failed state. We want to [04:36] keep Iran in one part. Okay. Every [04:39] single country in the world has [04:40] different sects in it. Right? Like for [04:42] example in Israel you have the [04:44] Ashkenazis, you have the Mijaris, you [04:45] have the Bet Israel, so on and so forth, [04:47] right? [04:48] >> Yeah. But it's but that's one ethnicity. [04:49] We have we have you know we have one [04:51] ethnicity. We we have we have other [04:53] ethnicities. For example, the Drews [04:57] >> uh or the the the Arabs within the Arabs [05:00] there's even a little bit of different [05:01] ethnic ethnicities for example bedawins [05:03] and stuff like that. Yeah. [05:04] >> Yeah. So you know imagine Israel getting [05:06] divided into five part like the Jews [05:08] have their own land, you know, the [05:09] Ashkenazis have their own. But we don't [05:11] want that to happen. Even in the United [05:13] Kingdom, for example, we have English, [05:14] we have Welsh, we have Scottish, we have [05:16] Irish. [05:17] But that's not how it should work [05:19] because honestly, if that happens, [05:21] honestly, it will be a disaster for the [05:23] Middle East. I I I think actually, as [05:26] ironic as that sounds, it's better for [05:28] the Islamic Republic to stay in power [05:30] than to have Iran divided into four, [05:32] five or six subsects. [05:34] >> I'm I'm very happy that you that you [05:36] said this. Not that I know that I agree [05:37] with you. I don't know that. But it was [05:40] interesting thing. I wanted to know [05:41] that. I wanted to know does an Iranian [05:43] person want to see that country remain [05:45] united or or is it more important to [05:48] throw off that regime? You're saying [05:50] stay united is more important. [05:52] >> Look, I think that if the country is [05:56] divided into five or six subp parts, [05:59] they will be worse. Why? Because from [06:01] the east we might have ISIS. Sorry, from [06:04] the west we might have ISIS. From the [06:06] east, we might have Taliban [06:08] that govern over Afghanistan to come in. [06:11] Then we might have um other groups such [06:15] as you know extremist groups rising up [06:17] within IRGC members. So it's it's going [06:19] to be a blood bath and you're going to [06:20] have all these subtexts killing each [06:22] other. So it's very important to stay [06:24] united. That's why I'm not an MEK or a [06:26] Mujahedin supporter because Mujahedin [06:29] are mek because the mujahedin are [06:32] actually left-wing [06:34] communists that actually collaborated [06:36] with the Islamic Republic back in 1979 [06:38] to cause a revolution. Then they were [06:40] outcasted. [06:42] Then they collaborated with Saddam [06:44] Hussein to attack Iran in the 1980s. So [06:47] the mujahedin or the mek they have a [06:50] very very low uh sort of approval rating [06:54] amongst Iranians because they betrayed [06:56] Iranians not once but twice. And in [06:59] order for Iran to be a successful [07:01] democracy, we need to be a secular [07:03] democracy in which religion or church is [07:06] separate from the state. Right? we can [07:10] have and even if we're going to have for [07:12] cultural purposes, if we're going to [07:14] have a religion for cultural purposes, [07:16] it should be Zerastrian, not Islam [07:19] because Iranians or Persians originally [07:20] Zastrian, a religion that goes back, I [07:22] think 7,000 years. Uh it's the religion [07:25] of Cyrus the Great. So, we don't want [07:28] you Iran divided. So I think the best [07:31] course of action is for Iranians to stay [07:34] united to have a transitional government [07:38] uh most likely led by Sha de Resvi [07:42] and then maybe in two or three years [07:44] time once the dust settles then we can [07:47] have a referendum to see what the people [07:49] want whether they want a republic [07:51] whether they want a monarchy whether [07:53] look whether maybe some people want to [07:55] divide but we can't have it divided as [07:58] soon as the Islamic Republic on force. [08:01] >> It's so tricky here in the Middle East, [08:02] you know. It's so tricky. It's like you [08:03] have a regime [08:04] >> like the like the Syrian Assad regime. [08:06] It's evil. It's corrupt. It's throwing [08:10] tens of thousands of people into torture [08:12] prisons. It's selling Captagon. It's [08:15] using the whole territory [08:17] as a narot terrorist state. It's just [08:19] like it's supporting Kamas. It's [08:21] channeling Iran, the the the Müller [08:24] regime of Iran. And then you get rid of [08:26] it. Next thing you know, you got this [08:28] Ashara Golani and he's killing Kurds and [08:31] he's killing and he's killing Alawites [08:34] and he's killing uh the the Drews and [08:37] he's a jihadi and it's just like it's [08:39] like [08:40] >> it's like you can't like you like like [08:42] we just we have a region that's not so [08:44] healthy. Uh that's why I always say from [08:46] from my perspective just talking about [08:48] the way the way I I see the world and [08:49] what my show is about here, you know, [08:52] I'd like to see a bigger Israel. I tell [08:53] people, but people don't believe me [08:55] because of the liberal lies out there, [08:56] the progressive lies. I say to people [08:58] all the time, a bigger Israel means more [09:00] rights for more people. You know, [09:03] whatever is under Israel's dominion will [09:05] have more rights for for more people. Uh [09:07] but it's sad to hear like this. [09:09] >> Just to mention something, look, [09:11] >> go ahead. [09:11] >> The Middle East used to be a relatively [09:13] peaceful place up until 1979. There was [09:16] no major wars. I mean, Israel was always [09:18] in war with Arab states, but like your [09:20] best friend in the region was the Sha. [09:23] There was no major wars in the Middle [09:25] East up until 1979 because why? Because [09:27] the Sha was the police station of the [09:29] Middle East. Also, under the Sha rule, [09:32] we used to have Christians living in [09:34] Iran, Jews living in Iran. It was a [09:36] secular state. So once Iran fell, the [09:39] whole Middle East fell. Oh, you can see [09:42] like literally after 1979, you could see [09:45] extremism brewing in the Middle East. We [09:48] have then we had Taliban, then we had [09:52] ISIS, Alqaeda, all these groups. So, I [09:55] think if Iran is freed, it will be a [09:58] major boost in stabilizing stabilizing [10:03] the Middle East. [10:04] >> That's a very interesting point. Very [10:06] interesting point. And we're just want [10:08] to I just want to make sure everybody [10:09] knows who we're talking with. Uh we're [10:10] talking uh with Ununice Ununice Sajan [10:14] who by the way uh you could find you. [10:16] How do people reach out to you and [10:17] connect with you? You're strong on [10:19] social media. [10:20] >> If you just put my name on screen, [10:21] Ununice or Ununice Rocks on Instagram, [10:24] X, YouTube, I'm on all the platforms. [10:26] >> Very good. Okay. My my my uh producer [10:28] will put that up in just a minute. Um [10:31] you by the way live also in a Muslim [10:33] state right now, don't you? Uh, you live [10:36] you live in that in that uh in that [10:38] dangerous Muslim country called uh [10:40] England and London, right? And and uh [10:43] it's got Oh, you know what? Before I get [10:44] to that, actually, I want to get to [10:45] that. But you know what? I actually [10:46] wanted to keep going actually with with [10:48] something that you were saying and then [10:49] we'll get back to that. A lot of people [10:51] in the comments are writing stuff about [10:54] King Reza Palavi, right? A lot a lot of [10:57] people are writing about that. Um, one [11:00] second here. Some more people are [11:02] writing. All kinds of, you know, you [11:04] know, Iranian folks are writing that [11:06] they are that they are want to be [11:07] united. Here, here's another one. [11:09] >> Exactly. [11:11] >> Okay. They want a king. [11:13] >> Here's another one. [11:15] >> By the way, great statement by him. I [11:17] wish I had the statement here right now, [11:19] but I loved his statement where he's [11:20] like, "Yeah, you know, we helped the [11:23] Jews 25 centuries ago rebuild their [11:26] temple." I was like, I don't know why. I [11:29] just love that. I just thought that was [11:30] so great, you know, that he's like, [11:32] "Yeah, 25 years a 25 centuries ago, we [11:34] helped the Jews build their second [11:36] temple." I mean, I wish more people [11:37] would talk about it that way, but but so [11:39] so tell me a little bit about about [11:41] Palavi if if uh if if if you respect [11:44] him, if you think that and what about [11:46] people who feel like he's an outsider [11:48] like how do we relate to this thing? Is [11:50] this figure [11:53] is the son of the last king? He's a very [11:56] well-known figure within the Iranian [11:59] community and I also support him. He [12:02] himself has said that he's not actually [12:05] looking for power. He wants to help [12:06] Iranian people get rid of the Islamic [12:08] Republic. So I think what will happen is [12:11] that he will lead the transitional [12:13] government [12:15] >> in which once the Islamic Republic of [12:17] Iran falls we need this window of one or [12:19] two years or three years for the dust to [12:22] settle and sha the resvi or prince tahvi [12:26] soon to be king has come out and said [12:28] look I want to help Iranian people to [12:30] remain united so we don't get divided by [12:33] groups such as mek or mojahedin as we [12:36] call it so we can have a smooth [12:38] transition [12:39] Because as I said if it's not a smooth [12:41] transition and if we get divided into [12:42] many parts then it could be a blood bath [12:44] and it could actually end up being worse [12:46] because from the west you might have [12:48] mujahedin from the east you might have [12:49] taliban then from within you might have [12:52] IRGC members still in there so you don't [12:54] want that to happen then after two or [12:57] three years time then we can have a [12:58] referendum to see what kind of a [13:00] government the people actually want [13:02] whether it's a republic whether it's a [13:04] monarchy whether it's a parliamentary [13:06] system or maybe it's a mix of all free. [13:08] Maybe we can have a monarch but the [13:10] monarch is not governing and the [13:13] governing is led by the parliament like [13:16] similar to the UK government where we [13:17] have king Charles but then we also have [13:19] prime minister K for example right [13:22] >> all we want to so this is look this is [13:24] all the small prints I think the most [13:26] important thing right now is to be [13:28] united under one leadership and because [13:31] there is the son of the previous king [13:33] he's the most well-known figure he's the [13:35] person that Iranians know [13:37] >> and do they trust him. They like him. [13:40] >> Yes, I think they trust him. Yeah, he he [13:42] comes from a good family. He's a very [13:43] well educated guy. Nice guy. Um I would [13:47] say he is a bit maybe too nice for dyas. [13:50] Maybe you need a bit of more teeth. But [13:53] at this moment in time, we don't have [13:54] anyone else, [13:56] >> right? [13:56] >> So it's important because we don't have [13:58] anyone else. It's important that we [13:59] unite around him at this moment in time [14:01] just so we can get rid of the Islamic [14:03] Republic. Then afterwards people can [14:05] decide whether they want Sha Pal or [14:08] whether they want someone else. [14:09] >> So so so so here's an irony. You're a [14:12] pro-Iran Iran person against the regime. [14:16] Right. Right. [14:17] >> And most most Iranians that you meet, [14:19] they love their country. I have found [14:21] that Iranian people in general, I would [14:23] call them, if that's the the right word, [14:25] they're very patriotic. They love that [14:26] land. They love that country. They love [14:28] their culture. Uh there's something [14:30] about Iran that Iranian people feel it's [14:33] not like a country they're like, "Oh, [14:34] forget it. It's garbage." They love it. [14:35] They love it inside. And they feel, and [14:37] you could see it also in that in that [14:38] show to that they'll do a lot to get rid [14:41] of this regime, to take their country [14:42] back. [14:43] >> Yeah. [14:44] >> Um there's there's a lot of that. [14:46] >> Now you're living in the UK, the UK. Oh, [14:49] and and to be pro- Iranian people [14:52] against the regime, you're oftenimes in [14:54] the camp of being pro-Israel because you [14:56] see Israel as a liberator, as a country [14:59] that is the is is a good force in this [15:01] region, a a more democratic, I'm not [15:04] going to say fully democratic, but a [15:05] more democratic element in this region, [15:07] a more pro- value of people country, [15:10] >> and it's an anti- jihad country. [15:13] >> But you're not living in Iran so that [15:14] you could have freedom. You're living in [15:16] the in the UK. But the UK is this [15:19] progressive left, anti-Israel, pro [15:22] Palestine, essentially pro- jihad, [15:25] although they don't admit it, [15:26] >> but they're a pro- jihad entity. And so [15:29] you being an ethnic person, an Iranian [15:32] person, a dark person, whatever it is, [15:35] >> right? You're out there saying, "No, I'm [15:37] >> I'm a as and you hinted to this [15:39] beforehand, like like I'm against the [15:41] stuff that you guys support. Where are [15:43] you guys when my people are being [15:44] murdered in the streets? Why are you [15:46] guys blaming Israel?" all the time, one [15:47] of the only good forces in in the region [15:49] to help our people get liberation. So, [15:51] tell me a little bit of what it's like [15:53] to be a a young pro-Iranian activist [15:57] >> uh in the UK, which is really a a subtly [16:00] pro- jihad place. [16:02] >> Actually, one of the first ever videos I [16:05] ever released was about two years ago. I [16:08] would say the first video that went [16:10] viral, it went super viral. It was [16:11] shared on, you know, social media by [16:13] many, many people, like tens of millions [16:16] of views. And it was exactly about this. [16:18] It was a bunch of Islamists in the [16:20] street of London screaming Sharia for [16:23] UK. And I done a reaction to that video. [16:26] I was like, why did you leave [16:28] Afghanistan? Why did you leave Taliban? [16:30] Why did you leave Sudan to come to the [16:32] UK to shout Sharia for UK? You know, [16:36] like go back. There's 53 Muslim states. [16:39] If you want to go and live in under [16:41] Sharia law, go there. Why do you want to [16:44] bring your poison to the west? Right? [16:46] And that video, you know, struck a nerve [16:48] and it went viral. But I think the [16:50] deeper issue here is is that because I [16:52] was born in Iran and because I lived [16:55] under the Islamic Republic, I know what [16:57] Sharia law or let's say mixing religion [17:02] and politics, especially Islam does to a [17:04] society. Religion and politics should be [17:07] separate, especially Islam. And look, [17:09] the the difference between Islam and [17:11] Christianity and Judaism is that a Islam [17:14] is a very militant religion. It's here [17:16] to govern. It's here to dominate. It's [17:18] not here to take part. It's here to take [17:20] over. So that makes it dangerous. But [17:22] also, Islam hasn't gone through its own [17:25] age of renaissance and enlightenment. [17:27] Christianity and Judaism have. Islam is [17:30] going through its reform now. And you [17:32] can see it in um you can see it in Saudi [17:35] Arabia. Muhammad bin Salman came out and [17:38] said, "We're not going to educate the [17:40] Quran to our students anymore." Can you [17:42] imagine? The leader of Saudi saying, [17:45] "Don't teach the Quran in schools [17:47] anymore." Then UAE came out and said, [17:50] "We're not going to send our students to [17:53] United Kingdom anymore because they're [17:55] at the risk of being radicalized in UK [17:59] universities." [18:00] >> That was the joke of the of of of this [18:02] week, right? Was that this week or last [18:04] week? It was like the funniest thing. [18:05] It's like, oh yeah, we the the UA is [18:07] like, yeah, we can't we can't be sending [18:09] our students to the UK. They're going to [18:11] come out like jihadi terrorists, so we [18:13] got to, you know, I don't know, send [18:15] them somewhere else because the UK is [18:16] totally taken over. And that's what I'm [18:18] asking you. I'm asking you like, [18:20] >> yeah, okay, let me explain. So, [18:23] >> it leaves because look, we have virtue [18:25] signaling leaders. We have virtue [18:27] signaling people that don't understand [18:31] Islam. They don't uh they haven't lived [18:33] on the oppression. They haven't lived on [18:36] the Islamic Republic. So they think, "Oh [18:39] my god, we're just being tolerant and [18:40] we're being so nice and yeah, let's [18:43] accept everyone and yeah, every ideology [18:45] is equal and you know, we don't want to [18:46] be Islamophobic and we don't want to be [18:48] racist." So they're infected by the woke [18:51] mind virus and you know, they have [18:53] certain people that lie to themsel and [18:55] they're so naive and stupid that they [18:57] believe these lies to the point they're [18:59] being infiltrated and taken over from [19:01] within. [19:02] >> Right? So I think the only antidote to [19:03] that is actually free speech, free [19:06] speech, free thinking, free [19:07] conversations, not being cancelled and [19:10] thrown in jail because of a Facebook [19:11] post like Karmadan. 12,000 people have [19:14] been arrested in the UK for and I was [19:18] look it's always the unholy [19:21] >> so so in Iran people are being shot in [19:23] the streets for their anti-regime stance [19:26] and in the UK people are being arrested [19:28] for whatever their [19:30] >> for calling it out. for calling it out [19:32] basically. So it's insane. But it's [19:33] always the unholy marriage of Islamism [19:37] and Marxism aka wokeism. And that's also [19:41] what led to the revolution in 1979. Uh [19:44] it was the unholy marriage of Marxist [19:46] and Islamist. And I think the the [19:49] Islamists always used the naivity of the [19:51] liberals, so-called liberals, because I [19:53] don't even call these people liberals. [19:55] They're like authoritarian left-wingers. [19:58] They're mentally ill if you want to know [19:59] the truth. Like that's what I think of [20:01] them because they think that somehow [20:04] criticizing Islam or criticizing any [20:06] foreign ideology is racist or it's [20:09] Islamophobic or is xenophobic or is [20:11] sexist and they're caught in this bubble [20:14] that they are not three thinkers. They [20:16] can't think freely without putting a [20:19] label on people. So I think the only [20:20] antidote to that is to speak up against [20:22] it. I know it's going to be hard. Uh and [20:24] hopefully Kier Star is going to be out [20:26] of office because he's done a terrible [20:28] job. Sadi Khan, we also the mayor of [20:31] London which is a Muslim Pakistani guy. [20:34] He's also done a terrible job. I think [20:35] London was the best city in the world 10 [20:37] years ago and ever since he took over. [20:39] It's a bit like what Mahani is going to [20:40] do to New York City. [20:43] So these people but but then the lived [20:45] experience I think the silent majority [20:47] is actually on our side. You might not [20:49] think it but the silent majority the [20:50] people in London are sick and tired of [20:52] labor. They're sick and tired of Sadi [20:54] Khan country as a whole. So I think the [20:56] UK is going to have a swing to the right [20:58] very soon. [21:00] >> Okay. Last question I want to ask you. [21:02] Do do you what do you think the numbers [21:04] are in the streets of Iran? Like what do [21:07] you what do you and a correlary to that [21:12] young people in Iran right now? Are they [21:14] feeling hopeful? Are they feeling [21:17] disappointed? Are they feeling are are [21:19] their friends dead? I heard also that [21:21] that that the uh that the that that the [21:24] IRGC and whoever was shooting the regime [21:27] police that was shooting at the [21:28] protesters were aiming for eyes [21:30] specifically. A lot of people lost their [21:32] eyes. [21:33] >> I I I've heard that before uh about this [21:36] targeting of the eyes. I've I've heard [21:38] about this. It's like something about [21:39] that. Um what what is the mood and are [21:42] you able to contact anybody normally [21:44] over there? So look, the mood is quite [21:47] disappointed because look, we were we [21:49] were promised by Israel and we were [21:51] promised by America that if you rise up, [21:54] we will help you and so far there has [21:56] been no help. Maybe there is a military [21:59] strategy behind it. Maybe the Americans [22:02] are gathering their troops and they're [22:04] taking them all to the Middle East so [22:05] they can hit and finish the job [22:09] immediately. And they don't want a [22:11] prolonged war. They don't want another [22:12] Iraq. They don't want another [22:13] Afghanistan. So they want to do [22:14] strategic and clean because also what [22:17] people don't know is that Trump only has [22:18] 28 days to finish the war. After 28 days [22:23] he has to go to Congress and ask for [22:24] permission [22:26] and most likely he will not get [22:28] permission because the Democrats they [22:29] worship uh terrorists in America. So he [22:34] needs to be very strategic but so far up [22:37] to 50,000 people could have died. We [22:39] don't know the exact figures, but we [22:41] know it's anywhere between 20,000 to [22:43] 50,000. [22:44] >> Wow. [22:44] >> Okay. That's a lot of people. That is a [22:48] lot of people, right? So, the Islamic [22:52] Republic is [22:52] >> I just when I when I hear you say that [22:54] and I I just and I just put myself, [22:56] >> you know, on the ground, I just say to [22:58] myself like, [23:01] >> yeah, [23:02] >> I'm just it's just disgusting to me how [23:05] how people are being murdered in the [23:07] streets. And and and you're right, the [23:09] propagandist [23:11] >> progressive left uh and a colleague of [23:14] yours, Alikica Laban, you know, made a [23:17] great post where she explained that [23:19] we're all trapped inside the the media, [23:22] the media's perception that they're [23:25] giving us, but they're doing that [23:27] because they're allied with the with the [23:29] jihadis. And so so so the the bad guys [23:32] get a pass in the media. uh and and uh [23:36] the good people that just want freedoms [23:38] and opportunities and and real [23:40] liberalism are being mowed down in the [23:43] streets. Nobody hears their cries. You [23:46] turn off no no amount of Starlink is is [23:48] helping that out. You turn off the you [23:50] turn off the the internet and the whole [23:52] world's like whatever this is fine and [23:54] there's barely, you know, so so few [23:56] things. So this the Islamic Republic is [23:59] the only state that gets or keeps his [24:04] own their own civilians hostage. Let's [24:06] repeat that one more time. The Islamic [24:08] Republic is holding its own civilians [24:10] hostage so America and Israel don't [24:12] attack. Like have you ever heard of [24:14] something like that? Imagine a state [24:17] holding its own civilians hostage just [24:20] so they stop foreign intervention. Like [24:22] I've never ever heard of that. Like [24:23] honestly, it's a bit like saying that [24:26] Israel holds all Jewish people hostage [24:29] just so they don't get attacked. But you [24:31] know what I mean? [24:32] >> And do you think and do you do you think [24:34] that maybe in the absence of some kind [24:36] of great plan? I mean, first thing, [24:39] warships are gathering here in the [24:40] Middle East, [24:41] >> right? [24:42] >> There literally warships gathering here. [24:44] Uh but in the absence of that, do you [24:46] think that maybe and and I have [24:47] commenters saying, "No, what are you [24:49] guys talking about? Trump is uh is is is [24:53] beholden to the Qataris, beholden to the [24:56] Saudis. [24:57] Uh he's, you know, he his friend is [25:00] Golani, Shara, his friend is Erdogan. [25:03] They don't want to see America attack [25:06] Iran. You know, you guys are you guys [25:08] are dreaming. There there's there's a [25:09] few I actually spoke about this [25:11] extensively on um on ex live with [25:14] Vizigrad and I explained why that is a [25:18] wrong stance to have but let me let me [25:20] just answer your full question in its [25:22] entirety. [25:22] >> Go ahead. [25:23] >> So [25:25] in the Middle East one of the reasons [25:27] why the UAE developed so fast was [25:31] because actually of the revolution in [25:33] 1979. Why? Because you know the plan for [25:36] Dubai was supposed to be in Kish Island [25:40] south of Iran in the Persian Gulf during [25:42] the Sha time but because when the [25:44] revolution happened Iran went under [25:46] sanctions they couldn't build anymore in [25:48] Iran. So what they moved across the Gulf [25:51] to Dubai right so all this all this [25:55] improvements you see in the Middle East [25:57] especially in the Gulf states UAE Qatar [26:00] Saudi all of that was supposed to happen [26:02] in Iran. So actually the Arab states and [26:06] the Gulf states benefited highly from [26:09] the Islamic Republic or the revolution, [26:12] right? Because Iran was under sanctions. [26:14] They couldn't do anything. So basically [26:16] all the improvements you see in the Gulf [26:18] States was supposed to happen in Iran. [26:19] It didn't happen. So they stood and they [26:21] benefited, right? Also Iran being under [26:24] sanctions means that Saudi kind of has a [26:28] monopoly on oil. they can, you know, [26:30] sell their oil for a higher price [26:32] because when Iran comes into the market, [26:34] there's so much oil and gas coming into [26:35] the market that's going to break their [26:37] monopoly, which means they're not going [26:39] to have as much leverage in the [26:41] international stage. Also, it's going to [26:43] be bad for countries like Russia because [26:44] Iran has the second highest biggest gas [26:46] field in the world. So, that also breaks [26:48] the Russian monopoly over gas. Uh, it's [26:51] going to be bad for China because China [26:53] buys oil from Iran dead cheap, like [26:55] almost free, like 30% of the price, [26:58] right? [26:59] But all of that being said, so yeah, [27:01] there's a lot of countries being [27:02] standing to lose. But that being said, [27:05] the Islamic Republic is the is the [27:07] biggest state sponsor of terrorism and [27:09] they're making the whole Middle East [27:10] unstable to the point they have actually [27:12] threatened, oh, we're going to hit [27:14] Dubai, we're going to hit this Arab [27:16] state if you attack us. So now even [27:18] people like Muhammad bin Salman have [27:19] realized that it's actually in the [27:21] benefit of the whole Middle East because [27:23] now we're trying to make Middle East a [27:24] new Europe. Everyone's leaving London to [27:26] go and live in Dubai. But Dubai and all [27:29] these other states cannot reach the [27:30] level they're meant to reach if there's [27:32] a destabilizing force such as the [27:34] Islamic Republic. So I believe the [27:36] rising tide raises all ships, right? And [27:38] in order for us to make the Middle East [27:40] the new Europe, we need a free Iran. We [27:42] need a free Persia. If we're going to [27:44] have a strong Middle East, we're going [27:45] to need a free Persia. Also, Islamic [27:47] Republic is the one sponsoring Hamas, [27:49] sponsoring Hezbollah, sponsoring Kis. So [27:51] it's in the interest of Israel to get [27:53] rid of two years. [27:55] >> That's for sure. See, for us it's easy. [27:57] For us it's easy. You know, you know, [27:59] for you, for you it's not as easy [28:01] because you even said that that you [28:02] know, you're concerned about it, you [28:04] know, breaking up into into [28:06] bulcanization into Yugoslavia type [28:08] thing. So, you you have other [28:09] considerations for us. It's easy. This [28:11] is a horrible enemy of ours. This is [28:13] this is the this is behind all of our [28:15] enemies, behind a noose ofah, [28:19] kamas, uh, Houthis, uh, Iranian nuclear [28:24] threats. So for for us it's an easy one. [28:26] Like these are bad guys. Also we'd love [28:28] to see uh an Iran that is pro-Israel a [28:32] shaz Iran. We'd love to see that. We'd [28:34] love to see cooperation. We'd love to [28:35] see uh you know technology medicine [28:38] travel you know and and and a a union [28:42] here in the Middle East. So for for us [28:43] it's an easy one. Yeah. I'd love I I I [28:46] would love to see [28:47] >> also to your other question you said you [28:49] know the the the you know Iran dividing [28:51] up. Look at what is happening in Syria [28:53] with Golani killing of the Kurds. [28:56] You know, that's why we don't want Iran [28:59] to be divided because one of these [29:00] divisions could end up in the hands of [29:03] someone like similar to Golani like the [29:05] MEK and they might start massacring the [29:07] Jews as is happening now in Syria, some [29:10] parts of Iraq. We don't want that to [29:12] happen. We don't want the state, we [29:14] don't want Iran to be divided into five [29:16] or six different states, some of it ran [29:19] by terrorists. So what we need is [29:22] strategic strikes by Israel, by America, [29:26] taking out IRGC members, taking out [29:28] nuclear sites, taking out missiles. And [29:31] I think we don't even need boots on the [29:32] ground because I think Iranians are the [29:34] boots on the ground. And also we need to [29:36] unite against a common leader chosen by [29:38] the people which seems to be at this [29:40] moment in time. [29:42] unite around him, have this transition [29:45] smoothly without much disruption and [29:47] then maybe in two or three years time we [29:49] can have a referendum to see whether [29:50] people even want him or whether they [29:52] want a republic or whatever they want. [29:54] But we don't want [29:54] >> It makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot [29:56] of sense and and I would love for Israel [29:58] to be just from my point of view, from [29:59] my perspective, I just want to see [30:01] Israel being a liberation nation, a [30:04] nation that helps good energies rise up. [30:07] And it's just you said, it doesn't need [30:08] boots in the ground. It needs just to [30:10] get rid of a few guys with guns, a few a [30:12] few things that that are that are [30:13] suppressing the people. And yes, people [30:15] sometimes need help from the outside. [30:16] And that's what Iranian people are [30:18] saying, like we need help from the [30:19] outside. We can't do this. We can't [30:20] defeat them. You know, they're they're [30:22] killing us unmasked. They're massacring [30:24] us in the streets. And I wish that we I [30:27] wish that the world would hear their [30:29] cry. I frankly wish that Israel would [30:31] hear their cry, to be honest with you. I [30:32] I have my own critique about my own [30:34] government and I say, "Well, you know, [30:37] you're really not listening. You know, [30:39] you've been complaining about Iran for a [30:40] long time. Now, the people of Iran are [30:42] begging you to step in and you partially [30:44] stepped in. Take it all the way. You've [30:47] given them confidence to get out in the [30:48] streets. They've sacrificed. They've put [30:50] their blood on the line. Now finish the [30:52] job and give them that liberation." [30:56] >> Amen to that. [30:56] >> I want to thank you very much, Ununice, [30:58] for being with us. And people, uh, we've [31:00] put up your links. We could put up a few [31:02] more times the links to your social [31:05] media. Ununice saddani sadani. [31:09] >> Sadagani. Sadi [31:12] say uniceani. [31:13] >> See I like that better. Sadani. [31:15] >> Sadani. Yeah. [31:16] >> Sadani. Okay. I like that. That's really [31:19] good. Uh you're awesome. It's really a [31:20] pleasure to have you and I'm really [31:21] really glad we connected and let's stay [31:23] connected. Okay. I look forward to [31:25] having you on again and uh and uh let's [31:27] let's see what what the days will bring [31:29] and [31:30] >> hopefully hopefully the next time we [31:31] talk uh it's going to be a free Iran. [31:34] The strategic strikes would have [31:35] happened hopefully. [31:36] >> Amen. [31:38] >> God bless you. Thank you very much. God [31:39] bless you. Thank you so much for being [31:41] with us. [31:42] >> All right. That was really fun and [31:43] special to bring uh to bring Unisan and [31:45] a real Iranian and and a real uh he's [31:48] fighting for that. He's fighting for [31:50] liberation. He's fighting for liberty [31:51] for God's sakes. Liberals. We're [31:54] liberals because we want to liberate and [31:55] give liberty. That's what liberalism is [31:59] really about. And it's not about uh uh [32:01] supporting tacitly the jihad against [32:04] Israel. That's That's not liberalism.
