Transcript [00:00] Look how they HAVE TO TWIST THE QURAN. [00:02] THEY TAKE THE QURAN, they twist, twist, [00:04] twist. [00:07] Be careful. THIS IS YOUR THIS IS NOT AN [00:10] INTERNET DEBATE. THIS IS YOUR THIS IS [00:12] YOUR FORGET WHAT IT SAYS IN THE AYAH. [00:14] THIS IS your [00:18] I believe the Quran is I believe it's a [00:20] Zionist book. And I would debate any [00:22] Muslim on that. Any Muslim, you Libya. [00:25] >> You say the must have is Zionist book. [00:27] >> The Quran. Yes. A Zionist. [00:30] Zionist. What do you mean by Zionist? [00:32] You said last time from Judaism. [00:34] >> Okay. So Zionist means you believe that [00:36] the Jews have a right to a country in [00:41] >> Have you read the surah? [00:44] >> Yeah, I've read the surah. Yes, [00:45] absolutely. I've read that and I've [00:46] readilah. [00:48] It has another name like Israel is No, [00:51] no, no, no, no. So, so the there's two [00:53] verses. The one I would go to more is al [00:56] rather than alra which is so alra used [01:00] to be isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So the one [01:03] what I'm quoting for is from what you [01:06] call it. And so it says is when MS is [01:10] speaking Moses is speaking the children [01:13] of Israel is he says oh my people [01:18] enter [01:22] this brother knows knows. say [01:24] >> his book. [01:25] >> Okay. Uh that's yeah uh now we talk [01:27] about why I bring surah because I I know [01:30] that you are familiar with the verse [01:31] that you just quoted from the maida but [01:33] the verse from that Allah promised that [01:35] the destruction will happen to the Jews [01:36] in the uh in the Jerusalem for twice [01:40] >> twice and yeah and he will send people [01:43] to destruct the Israelis because they [01:45] will disobey God. So that's what we [01:47] Muslims believe. There is no covenant [01:50] for any special groups of humans that [01:52] they will be promised even something in [01:54] this land or even in the hereafter that [01:56] will be promised something for sure for [01:58] eternity. It's up to your accountable uh [02:02] uh accountable actions and what's how [02:05] much your devotion is to God because [02:07] everything is for God. Even Muslims [02:09] themselves God promised Jews in Quran [02:11] that they will never have be have a [02:14] state except with two reason. either [02:19] without help from Allah and help with [02:21] with with with people. Then why will in [02:24] the or the interpretations of early [02:26] Muslim scholars when they say Allah they [02:28] means that Allah will make the Jews have [02:30] faith. Allah have in Quran he says he [02:33] make them the Jews are humble to the day [02:36] of judgment. He will make he will send [02:37] for them a people will make them suffer [02:40] like Hitler. Okay. So till the day of [02:42] judgment Allah will make come make make [02:44] specific people specific generation just [02:46] to humiliate Jews. Okay, we see that. [02:50] Okay, you can saw the Holocaust as an [02:51] example for that. Okay, so then the [02:54] exceptions God's made in this verses is [02:56] that the Jews or the Israelis will go to [02:59] allow them for for a state. The [03:01] exception would be [03:04] like we we Muslims interpret it like the [03:06] your alliance with America. Without [03:08] America, Israel wouldn't uh I can say [03:11] wouldn't sustain the wouldn't preserve [03:13] their state. Okay, they will vanish. [03:15] Okay. So, he's talking about for those [03:18] that don't know, there's a verse in [03:19] Alra. It's the fourth ayah and it says [03:22] the Jews will surely cause corruption in [03:24] the land twice and they will lose the [03:26] land. And so, actually in the Quran, the [03:28] Jews lose the land three times. And [03:29] there's three documented examples. So, [03:31] the first time is what we just said. So, [03:35] immediately after so immediately after [03:38] Moses says to the children of Israel, [03:40] enter the land that God has promised to [03:42] you. But then they [03:44] >> they don't they says there's jabarind [03:46] there's great great people here and they [03:47] were [03:48] >> and your lord fights with with [03:50] yourselves and leave us here we are not [03:52] we are just sitting here [03:53] >> yeah and so they don't go in and so as a [03:55] punishment because they didn't follow [03:57] God this according to the Quranic [03:59] narrative they have to wander for 40 day [04:02] 40 years and then they their children [04:04] and the younger ones enter [04:07] >> but they they didn't consider a lose for [04:10] the land because they didn't so so allow [04:13] I I listen to you. So allow me to to [04:15] land the point and then you can argue [04:16] with me. So the Quran doesn't go into [04:18] much detail, but when you you read [04:20] outside of the Quran, Islam says that I [04:23] kalib um led the Jewish people into the [04:26] nation. Now this corroborates perfectly [04:29] the Torah narrative. The Torah narrative [04:31] is that the Jews didn't enter the land. [04:33] They said we're like grasshoppers in the [04:35] eyes of they're the giants. They're the [04:37] people in the land. Exactly the same [04:38] language, Jabarim but in Hebrew. [04:41] And [04:43] they wander for 40 years. They they then [04:45] come in. They're led by Yeshua. Yoshu [04:47] comes in. He crosses the Jordan River [04:49] and they lead a campaign of conquest [04:51] capturing cities like I and Jericho. And [04:55] eventually um the entire land is [04:57] settled. Um [05:00] by the [05:02] by the by the entire the Jewish people [05:05] settle the entire land. So then what [05:07] happens? They're in the land. They're [05:09] living. They raise kings, great people [05:11] like Dawood and Solomon. And then [05:13] there's an expulsion. And this is the [05:15] first of the corruptions. And the first [05:17] temple, the beta mikdash is destroyed [05:20] and the Jews are taken off the Babylon [05:23] or at least the leadership is. [05:25] >> Yes. [05:25] >> They then return and they rebuild and [05:28] the they build the temple again. And [05:29] then that's beautified by King Herod and [05:32] that's the site where Mas Alexa sits [05:33] today and Kabad Sakra is the platform, [05:37] the extension that Herod built. [05:40] But again, [05:42] >> who built it? [05:43] >> Um, so when the Jews returned, they [05:45] built the temple, but then it was [05:47] extended. Herod extended it. So a lot of [05:49] what you see today, the structure was [05:51] built by King Herod. He was an amazing [05:53] builder. Not a great man, um, but an [05:55] amazing builder. [05:57] >> And some of the most incredible [05:59] monuments and buildings. So for [06:00] instance, Marata Makellah, [06:03] the cave of the patriarchs in Hebron, [06:06] the Ibrahimi Masid that was built by [06:08] Herod and the patriarchs are buried [06:11] there obviously, but he he beautified [06:13] it. He built beautiful structures, but [06:15] that's a distraction. Herod's temple was [06:17] then destroyed and the Jews were [06:20] expelled from at least Jerusalem by the [06:22] Romans. And this is the the second time [06:24] we lost the land for corruption. So when [06:27] the Quran talks about losing the land [06:29] twice, it's describing something that [06:31] already happens. And if you read the [06:32] taps, they date it to exactly what I'm [06:34] saying. They say, they say um the time [06:38] they say the time of Isaiah, but they [06:40] date these two corruptions as being in [06:42] the past. So what's going on? How is it, [06:45] and this is my theory, and I'm very [06:47] intrigued to hear your your point, your [06:49] thoughts on it. My theory is this. Allah [06:52] promises the land to the Jewish people. [06:54] Allah's word is eternal. Allah Allah is [06:57] perfect. Allah is all knowing. When God [07:00] says this is bani is for bani is however [07:04] there is a condition. [07:06] We need to follow [07:08] the law of Allah. We need to follow. We [07:11] need to submit. We need to be believers. [07:14] And so the generation of MS lacked im. [07:18] The generation of the first corruption [07:20] lacked im. The generation of the second [07:23] corruption lacked iman. And this is what [07:24] our book says. They're talking about [07:26] there. It even says there were idols [07:28] that were put up in the temple. It says [07:29] that the Jews had hatred for each other [07:32] and these are reasons that we lost the [07:35] temple. It was obviously our enemies [07:38] destroyed it. But a Jewish way is to [07:40] reflect and look in and say, "What did [07:42] we do?" Well, these are the sins that we [07:44] did. And so Judaism agrees with this [07:46] same concept. If we f if we submit, if [07:49] we follow the creator, if we're good [07:52] Jews, we don't eat bacon sandwiches, we [07:54] don't put up idols, then we keep the we [07:56] keep the land. And I if you read, it [08:00] even goes on to say that the that [08:02] there'll be a gathering. There'll be a [08:04] return of the Jews in the Quran and also [08:06] in the Torah. And this is exactly what [08:08] we're witnessing. The Jews have [08:09] returned. The Jews are in the land and [08:12] Allah is keeping us here. And one of the [08:14] reasons as a as a believing man, one of [08:17] the reasons I believe that is is because [08:19] today we have more Jews studying the [08:22] laws of Moses than ever before in [08:25] history. And today we have more than a [08:27] year ago. And a year ago, we had more [08:29] than 10 years ago. And 10 years ago, we [08:32] had more than 20 years ago. And the [08:33] cycle continues. We are becoming a more [08:36] God-fearing nation. I'm not willing to [08:38] discuss the reality because if I am [08:40] seeing reality, I'm not seeing Israel as [08:42] a good state right now because you are [08:44] looking from Israeli man. You look how [08:46] how maybe are people could good to each [08:49] others maybe are keeping the most is [08:51] God. But we and in Islam we see that one [08:54] of the things that's Allah punish [08:57] for that they are not good to the other [08:59] nations. [09:02] They are no they feel superior to the [09:04] other people. However, uh the verse in [09:07] the surah is say Allah say [09:11] uh [09:13] uh [09:16] when the next time [09:19] Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. [09:21] So God speaks about something that [09:22] didn't happen. When it comes [09:25] it's like it's like a condition. When [09:28] this condition end the next time, okay, [09:31] they will be people that will enter to [09:34] your house, okay, and will make you feel [09:37] upset, will make your faces humiliated, [09:41] okay? Uh and also the hadith because we [09:43] have hadith narrations, we will fight [09:44] Jews the later times and everything like [09:47] that. The prophet actually gave us [09:51] gesture that we Muslims will lose [09:53] Palestine. He says the letter times one [09:56] of you will will would like have all of [09:59] u we would like have I don't remember [10:01] the exact words of the hadith but he [10:03] would like have a lot of money to [10:06] exchange just to be house be next to maz [10:08] a like just like um a brick so we can [10:11] look to the maj that means that [10:13] >> no no but what is a is a tangent so [10:16] let's pull it back is we'll go we can go [10:17] down a million different rabbit holes [10:19] let's bring it back to what we're [10:20] discussing which is is the Quran Zionist [10:23] So my claim is as follow. The Quran [10:27] explicitly states in black and white [10:29] that the land was promised katapa [10:32] eternally decreed the the word of Allah [10:34] is eternal. [10:35] >> Why you eternally? [10:37] >> Because the word maybe sometime why you [10:40] think it's eternal [10:41] >> because there's no if there was a caveat [10:43] if there was a conditional statement. [10:45] Yeah. If he said [10:52] if you repeated your corruption then we [10:54] will create we will repeat the replacing [10:57] you with another nation. But my pro my [10:59] proof no my my proof is this kind [11:01] initially gave you the land if you as [11:04] you said if you act well then you Allah [11:06] can preserved it to you [11:07] >> but I I can show you in the Quran how [11:10] it's eternal I can use the Quran because [11:12] what happens we caused the corruption [11:14] and what happened [11:16] >> yeah God destroyed the temple and make [11:19] the billion [11:19] >> and and we lost the land yes [11:21] >> yes [11:22] >> and did god bring us back [11:26] >> so that's what So in the generation of [11:29] Musa when they rebelled against God and [11:32] they didn't go into the land, what [11:35] happened to the next generation? Did God [11:36] ring us back? [11:39] >> Uh yeah. After [11:40] >> so this is this is this is my my [11:42] argument is this is the Quran has the [11:44] narrative. The Quran sets the precedent. [11:47] The Quran obviously it's the Torah that [11:48] sets the precedent but the Quran is [11:50] repeating when the Jews follow God they [11:54] will be blessed in the land. And when [11:56] they rebel against God, they will be [11:59] cursed and the land will spit them out. [12:01] And the land has spat us out and it [12:03] could spit us out tomorrow if we don't [12:07] follow the the one true God. [12:10] >> We believe as the prophet Muhammad after [12:12] he came when the people of the Torah [12:15] recognized him as a prophet because we [12:17] can speak about the prophecies, prophet [12:18] Muhammad and everything. They've been [12:20] like rejecting God's command because as [12:23] we believe that prophecies in the Old [12:25] Testament describing the Medina, [12:27] describing the Qar, describe, describing [12:29] every details of Prophet Muhammad, you [12:31] can get to that details every every time [12:33] you want. So that when you see a a [12:36] promised prophet and Jews came just came [12:39] to Medina just waiting for him to be the [12:42] salvation for the Jews. But when he was [12:44] an Arab, they rejected him. They thought [12:46] like he would be one of them. But he he [12:48] appeared in Medina. So when they [12:50] rejected him, they rejecting God also. [12:53] So they are not in the covenant of God. [12:55] But because we believe Muslims that God [12:57] give a covenant to all the not just the [12:59] people but all the prophets that if [13:02] Muhammad came to you, you have to follow [13:05] him. The prophet Muhammad in hadith says [13:07] if MS peace be upon him, if my brother [13:10] Musa peace be upon him is alive today, [13:12] he will not be able to do anything [13:14] except following me. Ma himself. [13:18] That means something if if the land [13:21] written for Moses [13:22] >> if the the land written for for Moses [13:25] then he should follow Muhammad in land. [13:27] though that means the transition of the [13:29] covenant to Muhammad but what have to do [13:31] so according to Quran [13:34] >> so it's a very simple answer that [13:35] obviously I don't think that's the case [13:37] otherwise I take sha but using your [13:38] logic no no no isma isma isma is no I [13:45] understand is let me respond let me [13:47] respond isma isma let me please respond [13:49] let me I was just I'm building a case [13:51] please [13:53] what I was going to what I was going to [13:54] say is [13:56] >> let's say that The shalom, the Muslims, [13:59] the Jews, Bi is the tribe, the [14:02] descendants of Jacob. [14:05] Shalom according to Islam, embrace [14:08] Islam. They we all take our shalom. [14:13] We all do that. [14:15] >> Then then by your logic, we're following [14:17] Allah. Yeah. By your argument. And [14:20] therefore by your argument the land [14:23] belongs to Bani Israel who are a subset [14:26] of the Muslims. But that land was [14:29] promised to the descendants of Jacob. [14:30] That's what I'm saying. The descendants [14:32] of Jacob. Now I say we have to follow [14:34] the law. And now we're arguing over [14:36] which law? Tawat Quran. [14:40] When you say that uh God promised this [14:43] land to Bi is you didn't provide a proof [14:45] for that because the first that you [14:46] firstly quoted from Allah says you said [14:51] okay you call me yes yeah yes yeah call [14:52] me my people [14:54] >> yeah call me my people so my people [14:56] that's mean the people just have [14:58] revelation didn't say this land so you [15:00] have the pardon of proof the pardon of [15:02] proof that this land specifically just [15:04] to the descendant of Israel [15:07] >> this is bida this is bida this is bida [15:10] Um, [15:14] it's [15:17] explicit [15:18] is who we're talking about. Don't do [15:20] that. The Quran is a good book. Rely on [15:23] the Quran. Don't innovate. The book of M [15:26] is clearly not the verses. Complete the [15:28] other verse. [15:31] >> So, I haven't memorized the rest. I did [15:33] remember it but I forgot. But yeah, [15:37] >> I just want to remember [15:38] >> unless we to do and then we'll gather [15:40] you as let's bring it up [15:43] and [15:48] and when there comes the promise of the [15:52] will bring you as one crowd as one [15:57] gathering. [15:59] Are you still there? We lost him. are [16:02] you there? [16:04] >> Hello. Just a second. [laughter] [16:07] Even a freeze. Okay. [16:10] >> So, I I read it out the chat. I've heard [16:12] the chat. I've heard. [16:17] Oh, we've lost them. Okay. Anyway, chat, [16:19] what we what we thinking of this [16:20] conversation? We're not holding people [16:21] for a long time. [16:23] In the context of surah, it says after [16:25] Moses spoke to Fon and and Pharaoh and [16:27] God's and God make him [16:31] uh what you call it when he drawn him [16:34] drawn Pharaoh. Okay. Then Allah told [16:40] didn't say some actually [16:43] >> they just left Egypt. [laughter] [16:46] >> Left Egypt. Yes. [16:47] >> Where did they go when they left Egypt? [16:49] Where [16:51] where did they settle? Where did many [16:52] Israel settle after Egypt? [16:55] They wandered. They wandered. And where [16:57] did they settle? [16:59] >> That's a matter of interpretation. It's [17:00] not a clear. Okay. [screaming] [17:03] [laughter] [17:06] You have to I just give me a second. I I [17:08] want to read it. I just want to to to [17:10] speak without knowledge. Okay. [17:12] >> Okay. [17:12] >> If you have a proof to say this, give it [17:15] to me. Scholar of Muslims say that. So, [17:18] so many so I think IB Abbas says [17:22] >> because because there are other verses [17:24] in Quran says that uh Allah speaks about [17:28] Pharaoh's pharaohs after him [17:37] he he gave all of this inheritage of to [17:41] so the scholars went to that this land [17:43] that Allah speaks about is Egypt and [17:45] they lived in Egypt for a while I don't [17:47] know part of Egypt actually because some [17:49] of people say that's what's drawn for [17:51] Owen. It was a river, not wasn't the [17:53] >> He's just read the verse before Fyon's [17:55] just drowned in the sea. [17:59] >> What what verse? [18:00] >> Let me let me read before. I'm pretty [18:01] sure it's before he's just drowned in [18:02] the sea. Let me just go back. [18:04] >> It's saying that B is have inherited the [18:06] land. [18:07] >> Let me just say the land of Pharaoh. [18:09] >> Yeah, this is literally the verse [18:11] before. So, so um Pharaoh wanted to [18:15] scare Bunny Israel out of the land, out [18:18] of Maser, [18:19] >> but we drowned him and all of those with [18:21] him. So, Pharaoh's now drowned. The next [18:24] verse says, "And we said to the children [18:27] of Israel after him, after [18:34] >> well settle in the land of Pharaoh [18:36] because the other verses clearly says [18:38] that you say Quran. [18:39] >> So you can't say you can't say settle in [18:41] Egypt. They've just left Egypt and [18:43] thrown [18:44] >> scholars I gave you early school said [18:46] that because there are other verses [18:48] explicitly saying that." I will give you [18:49] just wait a second. I gave you the verse [18:51] because I told you [18:53] Chronologically, this is very important. [18:56] And we said after him, after Pharaoh has [19:00] drowned, [19:01] >> inherited his land. [19:02] >> LOOK HOW THEY HAVE TO TWIST THE QURAN. [19:04] THEY TAKE THE QURAN, they twist, twist, [19:06] twist. [laughter] [19:09] Habibi, be careful. This is your This is [19:12] not an internet debate. THIS IS YOUR [19:14] THIS IS YOUR FORGET WHAT IT SAYS IN THE [19:17] AYAH. This is your [19:18] >> Would you listen? Would you listen or be [19:20] like Nick? I I'll listen I'll listen [19:23] >> okay I will give you right now a verse [19:25] or if you don't want interpretation go [19:27] to school I'll give you another verse to [19:28] you for you clear that Allah after he [19:31] drawn for he inherited the land to ban [19:33] Israel so now this passage is speakings [19:35] about after Allah has drawn also for all [19:37] he said to ban Israel live in this land [19:40] so if you get those passages together we [19:42] will see it's the same context if you [19:44] say otherwise then you have to give a me [19:46] a proof [19:47] >> I'm literally just reading the Quran [19:49] everyone can read ayat ayah I will give [19:51] you a explicit verse saying that's what [19:53] I'm claiming. Just a second. I'll give [19:55] you the number of the verse and the [19:56] surah. Don't go. [19:59] >> So I'm not going to go while while he's [20:01] looking. The Quran is so black and [20:03] white. Pharaoh drowns. The Egyptians [20:05] drown in the ocean. And then the Jews [20:07] are told to enter the land and settle [20:09] the land. [20:11] Hello. That is literally could not be [20:14] more black and white. And this is the [20:16] kind of acrobatics he's now going to [20:17] have to do. He's going to draw another [20:19] verse from [20:20] >> 55. [20:20] >> 59. Read it. [20:22] >> 59 in in Alisra again in in Alisra. [20:25] >> It's not Isra. [20:30] >> No, sorry. I read it wrong. [20:34] Poets. [20:40] >> So, let me just read it in context. I'm [20:42] going to go. [20:43] >> Yeah. I wish. Yeah. [20:49] Bear with us. Um, is there a better way [20:50] of reading this because it's very short. [20:52] Okay. Then Pharaoh sent mobilizers to [20:55] all cities. So this is 53. And so [20:58] Pharaoh sent mobilizers to all cities. [21:02] These are just a handful of people. [21:04] >> That's Pharaoh speaking [21:06] >> who have really enraged us. [21:09] But we are all on alert. [21:12] So [21:13] >> we remove them from the gardens and [21:16] springs [21:19] >> treasures and splendid residency. So [21:21] he's taking the Jews out of their [21:23] houses. So it was and we awarded it. Oh [21:28] no, it's not the Jews. Who's who's been [21:29] removed from the the uh who's been [21:32] removed here? [21:33] >> Just keep going. You will get [21:34] >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Who's been [21:36] removed? Who whose houses are they [21:38] taken? [21:39] >> Far has been [21:40] >> Okay. Okay. So Pharaoh is so sorry, let [21:43] me just go back. So I'm I'm not [21:45] following this [21:47] habibi. [21:48] >> So So Pharaoh sent mobilizers to all [21:50] cities [21:54] and [21:56] >> these are just a handful of people, a [21:59] small band of people [22:02] >> who have really enraged her. So Pharaoh [22:03] is saying, "But we are all on the [22:06] alert." [22:07] And so who's I'm this what I'm trying to [22:10] understand. What's the who's speaking [22:12] now? This is [22:14] >> still per. [22:16] >> Okay. So, we remove from them gardens [22:18] and springs. So, Pharaoh removed from [22:19] who? Ban Israel. [22:21] >> No, God removed. [22:23] >> Okay. That's what I was saying. Yeah. [22:24] God remove God removes far. Okay. That's [22:26] what I was asking. [22:27] >> From the paradoxes that he living in the [22:30] >> and the treasures and the noble abode [22:35] of. So, it was and we awarded it to [22:39] Yeah. And we won it to the children of [22:41] >> Isel. [22:42] Yeah. [22:43] >> So this this this is the biblical [22:45] narrative. [22:46] >> Which land? Which land been inherited? [22:49] >> So inherited is the same land that God [22:53] removed Pharaoh from. [22:54] >> Is Pharaoh alive here? [22:57] >> Is Pharaoh is Pharaoh alive here? [23:01] >> And which verse you saying alive? So [23:04] when they're removed, so he lured them [23:07] out from the gardens and springs. [23:10] >> Jat, [23:11] >> is Pharaoh alive at this point? Is he [23:14] alive or dead? [23:15] >> When when he when he removed [23:18] >> when he's lured out. Yeah. Expelled. [23:21] >> He's dead. Expel expelled is better. [23:23] Expelled. [23:26] >> So [23:27] >> So he's alive. [23:29] >> He's alive. [23:30] >> Expelled then he died. He He died when [23:33] when he expels. He died in the ocean. He [23:34] didn't die in Wait there. Wait there. [23:36] Wait there. Wait there. No, no, no, no. [23:37] So, how would you translate? [23:44] >> Yeah. So, how would you how would you [23:46] translate directly each one? [23:49] >> Treasures [23:52] a good stance. Good. Uh, [23:54] >> so [23:56] [snorts] [23:57] >> yeah, then it's just even say what [24:00] you're saying. [24:02] So, slow down. Slow down. Slow down. [24:08] >> No. No. Don't run. Don't run. Don't run. [24:10] We've just read it. Don't run. So, [24:13] >> doesn't say [24:16] after school live in this land. Which [24:20] lands still for? Okay. [24:23] >> Well, so so okay, maybe I'm missing it. [24:26] Maybe I'm missing it. Yeah. So, I'm [24:28] going to slow down. Slow down. Let me [24:30] just so the biblical [laughter] [24:32] listen [24:34] can I just say I' I've read you put your [24:36] case you put [24:38] >> just read 59 and then continue just read [24:40] >> okay I'll read 59 and wait there I'm [24:42] going to do something just so none of us [24:44] can mistransate um [snorts] [24:53] and like this we have inherited all of [24:55] this to ban is which is the gardens [24:59] which is the springs everything that far [25:02] been removed from [25:04] >> okay bear with me [25:06] >> and this is the same context in the [25:08] surah is so it's not it's not [25:11] >> thus thus [25:14] we caused it to be inherited by and we [25:17] inherited it the sons of Israel by [25:21] Israel so what that's literal [25:22] translation so what it's saying is the [25:24] splendor the this is what they they [25:27] inherit nothing about no here hear me [25:30] out hear me out in the Torah in the [25:33] Jewish narrative the original which the [25:35] Quran is affirming that but to be [25:40] respectful [25:41] >> the Quran saying that good is avoiding [25:43] the [25:44] >> to be respectful what the Quran is [25:46] saying the Torah says is when the Jews [25:48] left Egypt they took with them silver [25:50] and they took many of the treasures so [25:52] they not the land they took out with [25:55] them when they went to Mukada said they [25:57] took the splenders which is exactly what [25:59] the Quran saying. It doesn't say that [26:00] they take the land. [laughter] [26:03] WHERE does it say? [26:05] >> How about you go to them schoolers and [26:07] say that there are lots of Islamic [26:09] Islamic scholars understood as this as [26:12] it clear says and says the panel lived a [26:15] while in Egypt before moving to the [26:18] >> they can say what they want. They get [26:20] everything wrong. So of course they're [26:21] going to get that wrong. If they got it [26:23] right, THEY'D BE JEWISH. Ab [laughter] [26:26] now you're now you are panicking. Okay. [26:28] I [26:28] >> I'm not panicking. You tell you told me [26:30] to go to Quran. I went to the Quran and [26:32] you said, "No, no, don't go to Quran. Go [26:33] to the scholars." LIKE QURAN SCHOLARS [26:36] MAKE I GO to Quran. I go to Quran. [26:39] >> No, I'm saying to you that this is what [26:41] we understood if actually Muslims early [26:44] Muslims would actually say maybe this [26:46] land it was because they said it in a [26:49] lot of context. They were not affiring [26:51] of it. Okay. We're not a fear of the [26:53] from state that Moses Moses has ordered [26:55] to enter the land. In this passage that [26:58] you came it that you quote it when you [27:00] said inah it cames after you said oh [27:04] it's it's mean that's not it's because [27:07] the verse says [27:10] I told you give you the same verse the [27:11] same passage in another surah [27:13] >> it's not this is different verse it says [27:15] nothing about the ar why does it say ard [27:18] >> it's okay uh god says what removed [27:21] borrow from [27:25] >> and then rewarded them with this [27:27] which is what the Torah says. We took [27:29] the splenders from Egypt and entered [27:31] Israel. [27:32] >> Part of it, just a part of it. Like God [27:35] says in Quran, that's your narration. [27:36] Don't mix your narration with our [27:37] narration. Our narrations in this verse [27:39] specifically says God. [27:41] >> Don't mix your narration with your book [27:44] cuz your narration is not the same as [27:45] your book. Your narration is and the [27:48] book says something different than what [27:50] you're saying. You're adding to the [27:52] you're adding to the Quran. once that's [27:54] happened. Let's discuss the the the [27:56] things that's messed up in the the Old [27:57] Testament the Quran corrected for the [27:59] for for the for you. We can get to that [28:01] topic. I I like to bet you on that. [28:03] >> My my my chat just told me off a show. [28:05] I'm sorry. I get excited. [28:07] >> How about to get this passage? It says a [28:11] few people few people that's been [28:12] trained off Pharaoh speaks about you say [28:16] oh 600,000s [28:18] 600,000s. How many generations between [28:20] Jacob and Moses? So now we're doing the [28:23] Muslim pivot. [28:25] >> What? [28:26] >> We're pivoting to another debate. [28:28] >> No, it's [laughter] [28:31] okay. I think I think so done. We are [28:33] done here. I think we're done here. I [28:34] will not go on. [28:37] >> The chat will judge our conversation. [28:39] Allah will judge our hearts. [28:41] >> Allah will judge. Everyone can get back [28:43] to the sources. Get back to the [28:44] passages. Give back to everything. [28:46] >> Okay guys, I appreciate anyway. I always [28:49] have fun talking to you and I always [28:50] learn something and I did today. So [28:51] thank you. [28:52] >> Okay. [28:54] >> Guy does both the straight path [28:55] inshallah. [28:57] >> This live uh this uh conversation is [28:59] live in YouTube. [29:01] >> Pardon this live. Yeah. Yeah. This is [29:02] live. Um [29:03] >> okay. It will be remain on the YouTube. [29:06] You wouldn't [29:07] >> depend almost unless something happens [29:09] in the latest stream it will exist and [29:12] it may not exist forever. It may exist [29:13] for a few days. But I might also clip [29:15] this because I this when I talk Islam, I [29:18] don't want to talk about the age of [29:19] Aisha. I like let apostate prophet do [29:21] that. Everyone go follow. Um I don't [29:24] want to talk about what I want to talk [29:26] about is is the Quran Zionist because I [29:29] want the Muslims to come to terms with [29:31] me living here. [29:33] >> Next time I'll prepare myself more for [29:35] for a topic like that. If you want [29:37] >> definitely like to topics about Judaism, [29:40] I suggest it for you next time. Thank [29:41] you. I just need to go right now. [29:43] >> No. All right. May Allah guide us both [29:45] in
