Transcript [00:00] Ladies and gentlemen, this was [00:01] priceless. Owen Jones goes up against my [00:05] friend Yishi Fleer, an Israeli [00:07] spokesman, and gets absolutely [00:09] annihilated. Take a look. [00:11] >> The murder rate in London is the lowest [00:13] it's ever been in the history of London [00:15] in terms of recorded history. He's from [00:17] the West Bank where more Palestinians [00:19] have been killed in the last 3 years [00:20] than the previous 17 combined, which [00:22] were also bloody in their own right. [00:25] 20s, you big liar. You've had the [00:28] numbers. No, no, no. I'm going to I'm [00:30] just going to unbelievable liar that you [00:31] have on the program today. [00:35] I'll just keep talking 1,244 [00:37] Palestinians, including 268 kids between [00:39] 2023 and 2025, slaughtered by Israeli [00:43] forces and settlers. But let's just be [00:45] clear. Let's just be clear about how [00:46] this we're just going to just be very [00:47] clear about who we are. [00:48] >> UN says 912, [00:51] which is so much less than London. [00:53] YOU'RE SO FULL OF IT. [00:54] >> Always good to be Always good to always [00:56] good to be clear numbers. Look it UP ON [00:58] AI. ANYBODY out there listening as much [01:01] as you want because nobody is listen [01:11] non-Jews in Israel. He said I don't want [01:14] them to be citizens. I want them to be [01:17] residents. He said they would have only [01:19] three out of 120 parliamentary seats in [01:22] the Knesset. He asked who's asked if [01:24] Arab citizens of Israel the Palestinian [01:27] citizens of Israel make up 20% of the [01:28] population who' give three out of 120 [01:31] seats in the legislature. He said when [01:33] asked if Palestinian citizens of Israel [01:34] should be equal to Jews. He said no not [01:37] in my opinion. Let's just be blunt about [01:39] who we're dealing with and I'm just [01:40] going to spell it out though I don't [01:41] think needs much more color or text [01:42] here. We're dealing here with a racist, [01:44] an overt racist, a loud and proud [01:47] pathological racist and an overt [01:48] supporter of apartheid. And just so [01:51] we're just we're also clear who we're [01:52] dealing with here. Ben Gir, he says this [01:54] man, this tough guy. Yeah. The tough [01:56] guy. He said, I'm now going to quote [01:58] directly your boss, your leader, you're [02:01] standing on his ticket. He said, "For [02:03] every tear of an Israeli mother, a [02:06] thousand Lebanese mothers must weep. All [02:09] of Lebanon must burn." There's a word [02:12] for what that sounds like, and again, I [02:14] don't think it needs spelling out [02:15] because most people already have it in [02:16] their heads. He sounds like a Nazi. He [02:18] sounds like a Nazi. If you were to go [02:21] through the history book, [02:22] >> you're the one who sounds like a Nazi. [02:23] You're the one who's the Nazi [02:26] propagating LIES ABOUT ISRAEL. TELL THE [02:29] TRUTH ABOUT WHAT THE UN NUMBERS SAY. [02:32] Your career is based on the Nazis coming [02:36] on the show. The Arab citizens of [02:38] Israel, Palestinian citizens of Israel [02:40] are inferior. You've made the UN numbers [02:43] of all you're talking of their voting [02:45] rights. They already suffer massive [02:47] discrimination and you are standing on [02:49] the list of a man and I could go through [02:50] on I could keep going on. He said you [02:52] could keep going on with endless lies. I [02:54] know that you have endless me. I go on [02:56] sometimes. Don't get me wrong. I can go [02:58] on but at least I'll stick to the [03:00] >> Sure you can. You can go on a senior [03:03] videos. You can't tell the UN numbers to [03:06] empty Gaza over seven years of 90% of [03:10] its population a mass campaign of ethnic [03:12] cleansing. He says, "I see all of Gaza [03:15] as ours." you are a yes, that is a word [03:19] I know people say is banded around, but [03:21] if we're going to use the term fascist [03:23] in any context, I think it's more than [03:25] accurate to describe someone who says [03:27] that Palestinians are inferior, they [03:30] should be stripped of whatever rights [03:31] they have in Israel proper itself, [03:33] having already been driven out their [03:34] homes there by the founding of Israel, [03:36] and who stands by someone who whose [03:39] leader who you salute, who says that a [03:41] thousand Lebanese mothers must for every [03:45] I think I said I think I said more than [03:47] enough because I think everybody knows [03:48] who we're dealing with now. So yeah, [03:49] please [03:50] >> is let me just let me just clarify one [03:52] thing. How many Palestinians do you say [03:54] were killed in the West Bank in 2025? [03:56] >> I don't I I don't say it. I was quoting [03:58] the UN numbers which is nine. [04:00] >> No, it's not. It's 240. [04:02] >> No, it's not. Look it up. I just looked [04:04] it up on the other people [04:07] numbers. Listen to me. You can say [04:09] whatever you want. [04:11] We We just checked the numbers literally [04:13] from the UN. I have it right in front of [04:16] me for God's sakes. The year the UN's [04:18] OSHA year-end report attributed [04:20] Palestinian deaths directly to so-called [04:22] Israeli settler Judea and Samaria was [04:24] nine. That's what they're saying. Okay? [04:26] AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE POINT IS the [04:28] point is it's a tiny amount and every [04:30] person's life is important, but it's [04:32] nothing compared to inner city Chicago, [04:34] New York. But you you you have made a [04:37] whole career. You know, we have a we [04:38] have a famous Jew, his name is Natan [04:40] Sharansky. He created a test for [04:42] anti-semitism. Here's the the triple D [04:44] test. Demonization, double standards, [04:47] and delegitimization. That is exactly [04:50] WHO THIS GUY OWEN IS. HE'S ALL about he [04:53] he he doesn't care the fact that there's [04:55] 66 million people that are suffering [04:58] right now and dying in Sudan, South [05:00] Sudan, and Yemen. He doesn't give a damn [05:02] about that. He cares about the nine [05:04] people. His whole [05:08] suffering of other people. Your whole [05:09] career is based on Nazis. Your whole [05:12] career is based on creating lies about [05:14] Jews. YOUR WHOLE BOOK THAT YOU WROTE IS [05:16] ABOUT THAT. THE WHOLE collapse of the [05:18] West is because we fought back in Gaza. [05:20] It's idiotism. Idiot. It's amazing to [05:23] the only reason you get through anywhere [05:25] is because of your your looks and your [05:27] British accent. You're full of crap and [05:28] everybody can see right through it. [05:30] Okay. You're the one who's allowing [05:31] jihadism to take over England. You're [05:34] the one who's allowing jihadism to take [05:35] over Paris. You're the one who wants to [05:37] sell the Jews to the dogs. That's what [05:39] you want to do. We see right through it. [05:41] Just to be clear, [05:43] are you saying you find Owen Jones [05:44] good-looking? Is that what you just [05:46] said? [05:46] >> I said that. Yes. He's a cute guy and [05:48] that's how he gets through because his [05:50] mouth is dirty, but his face is clean [05:52] and that's part of his little charm. But [05:54] he's full of it. He's full of endless [05:57] I'm not going to respond to your bizarre [05:59] flirt. [05:59] >> The problem is the problem IS YOU DON'T [06:01] HAVE TO RESPOND. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO [06:02] YOUR HOLE. That's what you have to do. [06:04] >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can I just [06:05] respond to that cuz he's made actually [06:06] some pretty [06:08] >> I've already I've cited your extreme [06:10] racism which you haven't put out. [06:12] >> You can read my article in the New York [06:14] about my position about how to deal with [06:16] the two said between 2023 and 2025 1,20 [06:20] and 24 1,244 Palestinian including 268 [06:23] kids were killed by both settlers and [06:24] the Israeli state in the West Bank. [06:26] That's what we're talking about there. [06:27] More broadly though, I want to talk [06:28] about just this point you just said [06:29] about anti-semitism. I anti-semitism is [06:31] a really grave evil. A really grave [06:33] evil. [06:34] >> Yeah. despise anti-semitism. I'm a [06:36] socialist. Socialism, the left was built [06:39] disproportionately by Jewish people. And [06:41] there are so many great Jewish people of [06:43] the past and present. People like Yip [06:44] Harour or Adrien Rich or Rosa Luxenberg [06:48] or Harold Pinter. You, my friend, are a [06:50] functional anti-semite. And I'm going to [06:52] explain why I'm accusing you of that. [06:54] This is this is why you are functionally [06:56] an anti-semite. [06:57] >> Because you're the anti-semit. Explain [06:59] it. People like myself go to great [07:01] length, great length, my white colonial. [07:04] I'm going to explain and you can [07:05] respond. [07:06] >> We go to great lengths to emphasize the [07:09] demarcation between the terrible crimes [07:12] committed by the Israeli state, a state [07:14] who's including one of its leaders like [07:16] yourself who says uh for every turan [07:18] Israeli mother a thousand Lebanese [07:19] mothers must weep. All of Lebanon must [07:20] burn. We say that is not representative [07:22] of Jewish people. That's what we say. We [07:24] argue that and we believe it. And [07:26] millions of Jews millions of Jews [07:28] despise that. You on the other hand, you [07:30] my friend and your colleagues, [07:33] >> you you my friend and the colleagues and [07:35] your fellow colleagues in the Israeli [07:36] states, [07:37] >> what you do is you promote the idea that [07:40] Israel and its heinous crimes are [07:42] representative of Jewish people and in [07:43] doing so, you drive anti-semitism and [07:46] people like myself [07:47] like this. The exact opposite. [07:49] >> First thing, you didn't listen TO YOUR [07:51] ANTI-SEMITISM. [07:52] >> YOU are driving anti-mitism. [07:53] >> I'll let him respond to us. [07:55] >> I'm the driver of anti-semitism. This [07:57] guy writes a whole book about [07:58] anti-semitism, but I'm a driver of [07:59] anti-semitism because I'm protecting my [08:01] people in my land. The absurdity of this [08:05] of this supposedly, you know, smart [08:07] dude, good-looking, nice British British [08:09] ACCENT FULL OF CRAP. I'm the anti-semite [08:12] because I defend my peoplehood in this [08:13] land because we push back on jihadism [08:15] that took over Gaza because we make sure [08:17] that our country is safe. Because [08:19] because Minister Benvir gave out 300,000 [08:21] more guns in the last four years so that [08:23] Jews can defend themselves from the the [08:26] going to what is going to happen in the [08:28] Israeli election? Because with the way [08:30] the polls are looking, Netanyahu will [08:32] lose unless he pulls another one of his [08:34] miraculous uh levers out. What do What [08:38] do you think is going to happen based on [08:40] current information? [08:41] >> I'm not a pole dancer. You might be a [08:43] pole dancer. I'm not a pole dancer. I'm [08:44] I'm I'm here to run. I'm representing my [08:47] party. I think the right-wing is going [08:48] to do great. I think that people do not [08:50] want to give away the land of Israel [08:52] anymore. They don't believe in [08:53] progressive policies that that reward [08:55] the jihad. They don't believe that Jews [08:57] should not have arms. They don't believe [08:59] that prisoners should be treated as [09:00] though they're in a hotel. [09:02] >> Who is who is going to win the election [09:03] then? [09:04] >> What's that? [09:04] >> Who's going to win the election? [09:07] >> Bring on a political scientist. Okay. [09:09] I'm running. I'm running for with Ben. [09:11] I'm running with the right wing and [09:12] we're going to win. [09:13] >> Just be clear. He talks about prisons [09:14] there. Palestinian detainees are what [09:17] well over 9,000. Half of them are in [09:20] administrative or unlawful combat [09:21] detention. and they've had no criminal [09:23] proceedings of any description. That [09:24] includes 164 children. By the way, [09:26] Israel is the only country on earth to [09:28] routinely put children through military [09:30] courts. Only [09:33] 16 million children dying in 16% serving [09:35] [laughter] a criminal sentence and those [09:38] are kangaroo courts which have convicted [09:40] them in the first place and the sort of [09:41] conditions and if people should read [09:43] through what's been done to these [09:44] people. These prisoners, these [09:45] detaininees have been raped to death. [09:47] literally raped to death. You I love you [09:51] talking about it. The whole world on an [09:54] industrial scale kangaroo court. You're [09:55] a kangaroo journalist. You're a kangaroo [09:57] fake YouTube person. Yes, WE RAPE OUR [10:00] PEOPLE. WHAT a joker you are. What? [10:02] What? Now? Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. Wait. You [10:03] forgot to tell them that we train our [10:05] dogs to to rape prisoners. Can you [10:08] please do me a favor? Really? Just go [10:10] down. Why don't you use all of your of [10:12] your verbal strength and and and your [10:14] and your and your eyes and the whole [10:15] thing. go down to Sudan, South Sudan and [10:18] Yemen and help the 60 million children [10:19] who are suffering there. People must go [10:21] in Yemen. We don't know what we're [10:23] doing. We have a strong country. We're [10:24] pushing back on jihadism and we have a [10:26] jihadist region. Okay. We're pushing [10:28] back against it. [10:29] >> Yemen. God almighty. Really? Do you have [10:31] a degree or anything? Did you ever read [10:33] the Bible? Do you have like any I got [10:34] two degrees from Oxford University? [10:36] Yeah. Look, regardless, just a quick [10:38] one. [10:39] >> And that institution is not what he [10:40] >> brought up. Yeah, man. You brought you [10:41] brought up Yeah, man. Who? Boy, this is [10:43] going to go really badly for you. No [10:44] British columnist has spoken out about [10:46] Yemen more than I have. I've covered [10:47] that for years to take care OF BUSINESS [10:51] PEOPLE THAT died in in Judea and Samaria [10:53] from settler violence. I went to Yemen [10:55] refugee camp. [10:57] I did a documentary about Yemen. I did a [11:00] documentary about the Saudi war on [11:02] Yemen. I hope you agree as well. I doubt [11:04] that you understood Saudi Arabia which [11:07] is responsible for any Let me let me let [11:09] me jump in. Let me jump in. Let me ask [11:11] you back in your new book. You're going [11:14] to be hoping to represent Benavir's [11:16] party. He has very vocal views about [11:20] what he wants to do with the West Bank [11:21] and Gaza. Is your position that you [11:24] think Israel should take over the West [11:28] Bank and the Palestinians should leave [11:29] and the same with Gaza? [11:31] >> No, I my position is simple and it's one [11:34] that I've held for 25 years. You can [11:36] also read my New York Times article [11:38] about alternatives to a two-state [11:39] solution, a big oped there. you could [11:42] actually see what I say and not listen [11:43] to Owen Jones and his crap. [11:45] >> Well, just answer my question. [11:46] >> I will answer you fully because this is [11:48] the heart of my life. I'm I'm speaking [11:49] to you right now from the liberated [11:52] Judea next to Bethlehem and Hebron and [11:55] close to Jerusalem where we're illegally [11:56] occupying. Bull crap. We're from this [11:59] land. We are the indigenous peoples of [12:01] this land. We bought this land. We [12:02] >> So, what do you want to do with the West [12:04] Bank? [12:04] >> What I want to do is get rid of jihadis. [12:06] And I've said it many times in many [12:08] interviews. [12:08] >> How many Palestinians would you allow to [12:10] leave? How many Palestinians? [12:12] >> Don't make me say I'm not going to say [12:14] that word. The word is jihadis. Jihadis [12:17] got to go. [12:19] >> What percentage of the Palestinians [12:22] currently in the West Bank [12:23] >> who behave like jihadis? I hear you is [12:25] >> I'm not answering you in percentages. [12:27] It's not a percentage question. You [12:28] don't know what the answer. YOU DON'T [12:29] KNOW WHAT QUESTION IS. EXCUSE ME. DO YOU [12:31] WANT AN ANSWER? [12:32] >> Let me ask the question. You can decide [12:33] if you want to answer it. My question [12:35] is, what percentage of Palestinians on [12:38] the West Bank do you view as jihadist? I [12:41] don't have a percentage number and I'm [12:42] like give me a guess. [12:43] >> I'm not GIVING YOU A GUESS. [12:44] >> 5% 20%, 50%, 100%. [12:48] >> The question I will go on now. My [12:49] [laughter] [12:49] >> It's important because you say you want [12:51] to get rid of jihadists from the West [12:53] Bank. What percentage of the [12:55] Palestinians who live there do you view [12:57] as jihadists? [12:59] >> Jihadism is a is a is a is a taught [13:02] ideology. It's like Nazism. And [13:04] therefore, we could also unte it when we [13:06] stop the mosques, stop the social media. [13:10] How many of the hang [13:13] on is it shouldn't be difficult this you [13:16] say your position is you want to kick [13:18] all the jihadists out of the West Bank. [13:20] Okay. How many of the Palestinians you [13:22] get that jihadist in your in your view [13:25] how many Palestinians on the West Bank [13:27] are jihadists? Uh when they were asked [13:30] whether they supported October 7th [13:32] massacre in Gaza and in Judea and [13:36] Samaria, the so-called West Bank, the [13:38] average support number was around 80%. [13:40] >> So you would kick out 80% of all the [13:42] Palestinians. [13:43] >> I from West Bank and Gaz. [13:45] >> I'm trying to work out what your policy [13:47] is. You want to be a politician in the [13:49] Knesset. No, you're not. You're ducking [13:51] it. SO WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID ANYTHING, [13:57] let it go. [13:58] Do you view 80% of Palestinians on the [14:00] West Bank in Gaza as jihadists? [14:02] >> I hope not. I hope it's a lower number, [14:04] but anybody anybody who wants to be a [14:07] loyal a part of the state of Israel can [14:09] be and will be. That's our law. And [14:11] that's even our Bible. This arrogant [14:14] Brit Owen Jones gets taught a lesson [14:17] that, you know, you you can want a [14:20] Palestine, you can want a jihadist [14:22] state, but if you want it, you can have [14:24] it in London. you know, we're not going [14:26] to do that in Israel. We're not going to [14:28] do that in the land that was promised to [14:31] us. Like, we're not down with that. And [14:33] I think Yishi is an incredible Israeli [14:36] pro-Israel advocate. Uh he is actually [14:40] going to potentially be a Knesset member [14:44] if he gets in through Itar Bank's party. [14:47] And I think he did a great job and [14:49] always does a great job on Piers Morgan. [14:50] They don't really know what to do with [14:52] him over there, right? cuz he goes on [14:55] and they're like, "Wait, we don't have a [14:57] Jew that's kind of being like, oh, I [14:59] don't like the settlements. We don't [15:01] have a Jew that's being like, oh, I [15:03] actually think that BB is too far [15:06] right." We have a Jew that thinks BB is [15:08] not right enough, right? Not to the [15:11] right enough, is too centrist, and he [15:14] wants what really needs to be done in [15:16] Israel to get done. Thank you for [15:19] watching, and I'll see you in the next [15:21] one. [15:24] >> [music] [15:28] >> They voted in Hamz knowing [music] what [15:30] Hamas are. [15:31] >> Hamas gave no warning before they [15:33] slaughtered 1,300 women and children. [15:35] >> October 7th has happened. [15:47] >> Okay. [15:47] >> Kill the Jew. [15:49] >> Killing Jews with Israel.
