Transcript [00:00] You're saying that the people that [00:01] follow the ideology of Islam, because [00:04] you've just said those who follow the [00:06] Nazi ideology are as bad as the Nazis [00:09] killing. [00:10] >> The Muslims following Islam as an [00:13] ideology are as bad as the Muslims [00:15] killing because it's in the book. Yes, [00:18] it is. Yes, it is. [00:21] >> Watch what went down when Ali Dawa [00:23] debated a faright activist on the Quran. [00:27] Take a look. [00:28] >> Hi, Jada. How you doing? [00:29] >> I'm good. Hey, how are you? [00:30] >> Yeah, I'm good. I just want we can have [00:31] a little discussion. I just came here. [00:32] I'm not here to cause any trouble. I [00:34] >> was going to shake your hand, but you're [00:34] not allowed to shake your hand. [00:37] >> Out of respect. Out of respect. [00:38] >> What do you mean? [00:39] >> For example, the queen Everybody can [00:41] shake the queen's hand. I I believe that [00:42] you shake my hand. [00:43] >> I believe I respect our respect. [00:45] >> Why won't you shake my hand? Can we get [00:46] my main point? [00:47] >> Yeah. Shake my hand. [00:49] >> Come on. It's just the shaking of the [00:50] hand. I just don't want to. I just [00:51] >> Well, why don't you want to shake my [00:51] hand? [00:52] >> If you just respect that, please. [00:54] >> I'm just asking you. Why don't you [00:56] shake hand? Can I can I can I It's [01:01] sorry. [01:04] >> Does that have anything to do with your [01:06] prophet saying that women are deficient [01:07] in intelligence? [01:08] >> Uh, no. [01:09] >> Or deficient in religion? [01:10] >> Not really because there's a lot [01:12] considered unclean. [01:12] >> No, no, not Jay. Not Jay. A lot of [01:14] Muslim. The first university was built [01:16] by a Muslim woman. Education is key for [01:17] Muslim woman. I came here today to say [01:19] that what you said most some of the [01:21] stuff I agree. How? Pedophilia. [01:23] Pedophilia. No, no, no. She doesn't. She [01:24] doesn't. [laughter] [01:25] She doesn't. What I wanted to say is [01:27] look, as a Muslim, I'm British, I'm [01:28] Kurdish. Yeah. Okay. Now, you talked [01:30] about grooming gangs. Yeah. For example, [01:32] I don't Muslim grooming gangs. I don't [01:34] give a damn if they're Muslim, [01:35] non-Muslim. If if you guys said we're [01:37] going to go after all grooming gangs, [01:39] besides if they're Muslim or non-Muslim, [01:41] I'll be right behind you guys. If you [01:42] want to go after terrorists, I will go [01:44] after them. Let me tell you something. [01:45] One of my mates, Musa, he's in a video [01:47] of ISIS, and they want to behead him. [01:49] Yeah, he's in a video. ISIS is our enemy [01:51] as much as they [01:52] >> You know what the fact is, darling? The [01:53] fact is that you're talking about [01:54] grooming gangs. You're talking about [01:55] non-Muslim grooming games. You're [01:57] talking about non-Muslim terrorists. [01:58] Point them out. [01:59] >> And Muslim and Muslim. [02:00] >> Point them out to me. No, no, no. I'm [02:01] just saying. Just point them out. [02:03] Because because Hold on me. Point them [02:05] out to me in this country. You want You [02:07] want to come on or you want to join into [02:09] political activism, right, against [02:10] terrorism? [02:12] >> I've seen one. Hold on. I've seen one [02:13] non-Muslim terror attack. Okay. [02:15] >> Which was reactive. It was that silly [02:17] bugger that drove into those people at [02:18] the mosque, innocent Muslims. I don't [02:20] condone that. That's absolutely [02:21] disgraceful. Right. That's one one act, [02:24] a reaction. Okay. [02:25] >> To children being scraped off the wall [02:27] of Manchester Arena. Right. Not making [02:28] it right. It was disgusting [02:29] >> act. [02:30] >> You point out to me where are the seek [02:33] grooming gangs? Where are the Hindu [02:34] grooming gangs? Where are the atheist [02:36] grooming gangs? Where where are they? [02:38] The epidemic comes from the scriptures [02:41] >> from your prophet which says that the [02:43] kufar Allah said that the kufar can be [02:45] taken the kufar women and children can [02:46] be taken as sex slaves. That's not true. [02:47] >> That is true. That is true. Are we going [02:49] to get into tea? [02:50] >> No. No. I'm do I don't. Okay. But you [02:54] read the same book. [02:56] >> You read the same book. [02:57] >> Yes. But in the book, nowhere does it [02:58] say do tea. [02:59] >> Yeah. Well, hold on a minute. Hold. Is a [03:02] principle. What I'm saying is the book [03:04] and the hadith they they expressly state [03:07] that the Muslims are permitted to take [03:08] the non-Muslims the women and children [03:10] as sex slaves as an act of jihad. Yes. [03:12] Yes, it does. Can I can let's not is [03:15] done by Shia. I'm I'm not I'm not a [03:18] following. Can you hear me out? Thank [03:20] you, J. Thank you. I heard you out. I [03:22] understand. I understand every single [03:23] one of you guys concerned. Yeah. You see [03:25] terrorist attacks. Yes. A lot of have [03:27] been Muslims. My my issue is this. Can [03:29] you show me a single verse in the Quran, [03:31] the hadith, and the Islamic literature [03:32] where it says, "Go and kill. I will cast [03:35] terror into the hearts of the [03:36] disbelievers. Therefore, cut off their [03:38] nets and cut off every fingertip of [03:40] them." [03:42] >> That's one. That's one. That's one. [03:45] There are 142. Go to Sorah 5. Go to [03:47] Sorah 8. Go to Surah 12. They're in [03:49] there. Don't come here and pretend to me [03:51] that your book is any different to any [03:53] other sect of Islam. I've studied the [03:55] Quran. I've studied the Bible. Let me [03:56] tell you one thing, and this is a fact. [03:59] >> If you follow the Quran to the letter, [04:01] you are open. I do. I do the letter. No, [04:04] you don't. I'm an open Muslim. I follow [04:05] it to the letter. No, you don't. Yes, I [04:07] do. No, you don't. [04:08] >> How are you telling me I How many kar [04:10] have you killed? [04:11] >> That's the point. [04:11] >> How many have you killed? The Quran [04:12] doesn't teach that. [04:13] >> Yes, it does. [04:14] >> It does not. It does not. Don't make [04:17] don't make a proud of yourself, darling, [04:18] cuz you're starting to look really [04:19] silly. You're starting to look really [04:21] silly. Let me clarify, right? Let me [04:23] clarify. Silly. If you' have come to me [04:25] and said to me, "There are verses in the [04:27] Quran that say kill a kufur and I don't [04:29] agree with them." I'd have said to you, [04:30] "Fair play." You're probably not a [04:32] Muslim, you're an apostate. But you [04:33] haven't said that. What you've said to [04:34] me is I'm a devout Muslim and it doesn't [04:37] say that in the Quran%. [04:39] >> Don't come over here and try and mug off [04:40] people that are scriptures. Right. [04:42] >> Okay. Please tell me where it says go in [04:45] 5. In surah 5, let's go to surah 5. [04:48] [laughter] [04:49] I will cast terror into the hearts of [04:50] the disbelievers. Therefore, strike off [04:52] their nebelvers. [04:54] Let me tell you something. Two type of [04:56] non-Muslims. [04:56] >> HOLD ON. CAN I HAVE JUST before you say [04:58] this, can I have a show of hands? Who's [05:00] an atheist here? Cuz what he's about to [05:02] do is he's about to say the people of [05:04] the book, as in myself, the Christians [05:06] and the Jews, they're not real kufur. [05:08] But if any of you are atheists, this man [05:10] is ABOUT TO SAY THAT YOU'RE THE ONES he [05:12] should be head. You're my Go on. Do it. [05:14] Go on. Do it cuz I know what you're [05:16] going to say. [05:16] >> Can I speak to Can I Can I get Can I [05:20] speak? Please come close. Don't be far [05:22] away. There's two types. There's There's [05:25] two types of non-Muslims. They are the [05:27] ones who are combatant and there's the [05:28] ones that are non-combatant. So, for [05:30] example, if I'm a Muslim, let me tell [05:32] you, every single one of the non-Muslims [05:35] here are combatant and you can rely on [05:38] that site. [05:40] Every single one of the non-Muslims here [05:42] are combatant AND YOU CAN RELY ON THAT [05:45] SIDE. YOU can rely on that. Can I [05:47] finish? My point is this. If I am coming [05:50] or let's suppose Hitler and Nazis are [05:52] coming to Britain to attack us. We as [05:54] the British people have to help our [05:57] country and fight them off. That is not [06:00] the same as us going to innocent Germans [06:01] and saying, "Hey, I'm going to kill [06:03] you." Why? Cuz I feel that. So, please [06:05] don't get it out. This is my religion. [06:08] You want to draw the parallel of Nazism? [06:10] I love to do this. I love it. [laughter] [06:12] You tell me. Then there were Nazis that [06:15] were putting people in concentration [06:16] camps. There were Nazis that were [06:17] shooting people in the head. Innocent [06:19] people [06:19] >> and Jews. 6 million Jews. [06:21] >> Then there were people that [06:25] >> aligned themselves with the Nazi party [06:27] that believed in everything the Nazi [06:29] party stood for, [06:30] >> but they didn't do it themselves. [06:32] >> Are they just as bad? [06:33] >> Okay. Yes. [06:34] >> Okay. [06:35] >> Okay. They are just as bad. Okay, let me [06:38] tell you what you have just admitted. [06:40] You have just admitted that there are [06:42] Muslims [06:43] >> that support Islam and support the [06:46] Islamic terrorists and support the [06:48] atrocities that are that are dictated [06:51] and instructed in the Quran. [06:54] >> I don't know. But do you know what you [06:56] need to do? [06:57] >> You need to accept Jesus into your [06:59] heart. You need to turn away. That's Isa [07:02] barbarism. That's [07:04] >> this barbarism. this barbaric ideology [07:06] that you quite clearly state and you [07:09] quite clearly state that you stand for [07:11] wholeheartedly. [07:13] >> If you do, then the blood of every [07:16] innocent child from Manchester Arena is [07:19] on your hands. The blood of everybody on [07:21] the bridges is on your hands. The blood [07:23] of every single innocent person in every [07:27] single Islamic terror attack is on your [07:30] hands. So, do you know what, sir? I'm [07:32] glad you refused to shake my hand [07:34] because there's nothing worse than [07:37] someone who stands for something but is [07:39] too weak to admit it. NOW, LET ME TELL [07:41] YOU, you sir are my enemy. And I Yes, [07:45] you are. Yes, you are. You know what [07:47] Jesus said? Jesus Christ said, [07:51] >> Jesus Christ said, Jesus Christ said, I [07:54] do not come in peace, but I come with a [07:56] sword. I come to turn mother against son [08:00] against father against son, mother [08:02] against son-in-law. Let me tell you, if [08:04] you think that because we're Christians [08:06] and I'm holding this cross that you can [08:08] come here, you can lie in our faces and [08:11] that YOU CAN ATTACK OUR PEOPLE, THEN YOU [08:13] LET YOUR PEOPLE KNOW that us Christians [08:16] are not to be messed with AND YOU PICK [08:18] THE wrong fight. Now, I SUGGEST YOU GO. [08:21] OFF YOU GO, SON. [08:22] >> NOW, that is a video Ali Dawa does not [08:25] want you to see. And I'm no fan of Jada [08:27] as I find some of her views a little bit [08:29] too far and a little bit too extreme. [08:32] But she absolutely cooked him here uh [08:36] you know ripping him another one on the [08:38] Quran and on his own religion and [08:41] exposing that you know many of these [08:44] verses are actually violent towards [08:46] infidels and towards people that are [08:48] non-Muslim and Jada Franson uh I believe [08:51] her name is is somebody who you know [08:54] again she is too extreme for my taste uh [08:57] but she did a great job here and [09:00] sometimes you have to have a balancing [09:02] act of people that are kind of in the [09:05] middle. And so she did a great job. You [09:07] know, credit where credit is due. A [09:09] broken clock is right twice a day uh [09:11] where she was able to handle this [09:14] Islamist Ali Dawa who in my opinion has [09:17] far worse views than she herself does. [09:20] Thank you for watching and I'll see you [09:22] in the next one. 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