Transcript [00:00] Like if we're talking about the Israel [00:01] genocide, like because like I don't [00:03] know, me personally, because I don't [00:04] agree with the genocide, if I was from [00:06] if I was from Israel, I wouldn't like [00:08] agree that much, you know? [00:09] >> Oh, so you wouldn't if you were Israeli [00:12] >> Yeah. [00:12] >> you wouldn't you wouldn't call it a [00:13] genocide. [00:14] >> We talk about Israel, okay? And we can [00:17] use the genocide word. What about Yemen? [00:19] >> Yeah, what about it? [00:20] >> Well, what about what's going on in [00:22] Yemen? What about all the civilians who [00:24] have died in Yemen? [00:25] >> Me. [00:26] >> Do you Do you [00:27] Do you feel an obligation to learn about [00:29] To what degree do you feel an obligation [00:31] to learn about that? [00:33] >> Um I'm not sure. I don't know that much [00:35] about it. [00:36] >> Ah, okay. Okay. [00:37] >> Watch what happens when a student tries [00:39] to claim that Israel committed genocide [00:42] in front of a pro-Israel professor. Take [00:45] a look. [00:46] >> How about in Saudi? How often do you [00:49] do you think people censor themselves? [00:53] >> Um I don't really define myself [00:55] censoring myself that much in Saudi [00:56] Arabia. [00:57] >> Uh-huh. [00:57] >> I feel like, you know, as long as you [00:58] don't say anything negative, you should [00:59] be fine, you know? I don't I personally [01:01] don't think about all the negatives of [01:03] Saudi. I really love my country. [01:04] >> So, do you just take the negatives and [01:07] kind of block them out? [01:09] >> think there is a sense I just don't [01:10] can't think of a negative in Saudi [01:11] Arabia. [01:11] >> don't even think about it. [01:13] >> That's my country. [01:14] >> Dude, see, but hang on. When you hear [01:16] Sam saying the same thing or an American [01:18] saying the same thing, who The US, we're [01:20] the greatest country in the world. Do [01:22] you Is that like, yeah? [01:23] >> Like I feel like everyone at one point [01:25] like thinks their country is the best [01:27] country, you know? [01:28] >> Mhm. What about countries where it's not [01:31] the best country? [01:32] Do when do people have an obligation to [01:35] speak out about the things that their [01:37] country is doing? [01:38] >> I feel like when the country contradicts [01:41] the ethics, I feel like there's a lot of [01:42] countries where they got problems and [01:44] like they're doing wrong things. [01:46] Like if we're talking about the Israel [01:48] genocide, like because like I don't [01:50] know, me personally, because I don't [01:51] agree with the genocide, if I was from [01:53] if I was from Israel, I wouldn't like [01:55] agree that much, you know? [01:56] >> Oh, so you wouldn't if you were Israeli, [01:58] >> Yeah. you would you wouldn't call it a [02:00] genocide. [02:01] >> No, I'm I'm saying I would disagree. I'm [02:02] saying when your country's ethics [02:04] disagrees with yours, I think that's [02:05] when you should speak out. [02:06] >> Okay, wait. How about this? How about [02:08] Saudi Saudi's actions in Yemen? How [02:11] about that? [02:12] >> Are you aware of Saudi Arabia See, we [02:14] can talk about genocide. We can talk [02:16] about Israel, okay? And we can use the [02:18] genocide word. What about Yemen? [02:21] >> Yeah, what about it? [02:22] >> Well, what about what's going on in [02:23] Yemen? What about all the civilians who [02:25] have died in Yemen? Do you like Do you [02:28] Do you [02:29] Do you feel an obligation to learn about [02:31] To what degree do you feel an obligation [02:33] to learn about that? [02:34] >> Um I'm not sure. I don't know that much [02:36] about it. [02:37] >> Ah, okay. Okay. [02:39] And do you you realize what just [02:40] happened, right? [02:41] >> Yeah. [02:42] >> Okay. All right. Yeah. So, this is the I [02:46] mean, that's the thing, right? So, Sam, [02:49] I could go to Sam the same thing and be [02:51] like, "Dude, yeah, the America, it's a [02:54] great It's a great country of our [02:55] problems. [02:56] Bro, we got There's some more than [02:58] problems, man. Are you Are you watching [03:01] just right now how many civilians are [03:03] dying in in in Iran? Like, are you [03:07] following that? [03:08] >> Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm well aware of it. [03:10] Um and it it weighs heavily on me [03:12] because I [03:14] That's what I said earlier when the very [03:16] first question is that you have to [03:18] You have to be consistent in your [03:19] morals. Um [03:20] >> So, when do you feel as an American do [03:23] you have an obligation to to say [03:26] something? Like Like, for for example, [03:28] right now, we're we're we're at war. [03:32] We're sending a lot of missiles over [03:34] there. Right now, we're in you know, we [03:35] got this a truce going on for the [03:37] moment, right? But there are a lot of [03:39] other things going on, and that's only [03:41] one place. I can pick lots of places. It [03:44] How many [03:46] At what point [03:48] does it cross a line for you to say, [03:50] "Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hang on a second. Now [03:52] I might have to criticize my country [03:55] publicly." [03:56] >> I [03:57] It's well, it's I'm in a unique [03:59] situation. Well, not very unique, but [04:02] compared to Saudi Arabia where we've [04:04] been given very [04:07] much more loose [04:08] actually no censorship ideally, but we [04:11] have very good freedom of speech laws. [04:12] So [04:13] and very good protection. So the at the [04:16] very first moment where I disagree with [04:18] whatever my country does, I should I [04:20] should speak out on that. And that goes [04:21] with [04:22] with everyone in this classroom. I mean, [04:24] as soon as you disagree with what your [04:25] country is doing, you should be speaking [04:26] out because you have those freedoms. [04:28] >> Okay, I'm going to come back to the on [04:31] to Sweden and India in a second, but [04:32] where should you speak out? [04:35] >> Um you know, I [04:37] I'm not saying that everyone needs to [04:39] get on like a global stage. I mean, [04:41] everything [04:42] everything nowadays is global. I mean, [04:43] if you post on social media, anyone can [04:45] see it. But not even that. I mean, if [04:47] you're having a conversation with your [04:48] friends and you disagree and you're [04:50] talking, you know, sometimes you talk [04:51] about politics and you disagree with [04:52] something, you have [04:54] like you shouldn't be scared of speaking [04:55] out. [04:56] >> Let's just Let's just explore it for a [04:58] couple Let's explore Israel. Let's go [05:00] back to Israel for a second, right? [05:02] Cuz you're Jewish. [05:03] >> I'm Jewish, yeah. [05:04] >> And you're you and you even though [05:06] you're really liberal and you're really [05:07] not you're not [05:09] religiously very Jewish, but you're [05:11] culturally you're connected. [05:12] >> Yes, very connected, yeah. [05:13] >> Yeah, and you're a you're a smart guy [05:15] and you're thinking about these [05:16] geopolitical things or cultural things. [05:18] So like yeah, you're going to naturally [05:19] have a connection to that part of you, [05:21] right? [05:23] But [05:24] look, man, the reason Israel exists is [05:29] is the very is the problem in itself of [05:33] of 2,000 years of people finding reasons [05:37] to hate Jews. [05:38] >> Yes. [05:39] >> Okay? So let I'm going to set aside what [05:43] whatever we might call what's happening [05:45] in Gaza and so on, right? We'll just set [05:47] that aside for a second. But like [05:50] if I'm Jewish, I I'm like critiquing [05:54] Israel, [05:55] I'm going to [05:58] do it publicly, but I'm going to be [06:00] aware that I might step over a line. I'm [06:03] like, "Damn, man. I don't [06:04] >> Yeah. [06:05] >> There's a protective quality. The reason [06:07] Israel exists is because of the hate [06:09] that could just boom. [06:11] >> You used a really good word for it [06:12] earlier. You said delicate when you were [06:13] talking about Taiwan, and I think it's [06:15] the same situation. Um [06:18] I mean, I think obviously Israel has the [06:19] right to exist, and I know that's [06:21] controversial these days, but I'm going [06:22] to stand on that. Um but there's certain [06:25] aspects of things where you have, you [06:27] know, as [06:28] I'm not Israeli, um but as a Jewish [06:30] person, um you know, you having [06:32] conversations I I have a friend who [06:34] serves in the IDF. You know, just being [06:36] talking with him every summer or talking [06:37] with my family, you have to [06:40] I mean, for me at least, like I have my [06:42] moral obligation to at least follow what [06:44] I've been preaching in other parts of, [06:46] you know, for other countries. Okay. [06:49] >> So here's So here's the thing, man. If [06:51] you were to say [06:53] So Faraz just freely used the word [06:55] genocide. Many people do, right? Yeah. [06:58] By the way, I want to point out like, [07:00] you know, this is a college campus. This [07:02] is a conversation on a college campus. [07:05] So if you're watching the video and you [07:06] have this idea that college students [07:08] can't talk about anything anymore, here [07:10] are these two a Muslim student and a [07:13] Jewish student in the same classroom [07:15] where we're They're They're having We're [07:17] having a conversation. And this is the [07:19] majority of conversations that are [07:20] happening on college campuses. It is not [07:22] the extreme nobody can talk anymore. [07:25] Damn, that is getting so old, and stop [07:28] with the rhetoric, right? [07:29] >> Absolutely. [07:30] >> But anyway, it's delicate, right? So you [07:33] might think the word Like you're really [07:35] smart. So you should be able to make an [07:37] argument that it's genocide. [07:38] >> Yes. [07:39] >> And you'd be able to make an argument [07:40] that it's not genocide. [07:41] >> Yes. [07:42] >> Okay. So now but here you are, the [07:44] cameras are on and you're how much are [07:47] you thinking [07:48] okay, which way am I going to go [07:51] criticizing [07:52] Guardi, this is the this is the moment [07:55] of your question, right? Where where am [07:58] I going to go here because there's a lot [08:00] of things at stake about what you say. [08:03] >> Yeah, I mean it's a it's [08:05] for one it's most important to not give [08:08] anyone [08:09] I don't want to say like the opportunity [08:11] to be anti-Semitic because there's a [08:13] difference between criticizing a [08:14] government and criticizing the Israeli [08:15] government and then saying [08:18] and then being anti-Semitic and saying [08:19] something about Jewish people in [08:21] general, not just the Israeli [08:23] government. Um you know, speaking on the [08:26] the world power whatever, right? [08:28] >> And [08:29] >> So go ahead. [08:29] >> Yeah, you can't I I when I'm talking [08:32] about Israel to people who are not [08:33] Jewish, who are not Israeli, [08:35] my biggest thing is and I guess it's [08:37] kind of self-preservation but like I [08:39] don't want I don't want to hear someone [08:40] say something about Jewish people that [08:42] is unwarranted, that's not about the [08:43] Israeli government. [08:44] >> Okay, I got you. I got you. [08:45] >> Yeah. Yeah, I got you. [08:46] >> Even even if they're making a very [08:50] thoughtful [08:51] argument but you're you run the risk of [08:53] something. Like if like for example for [08:56] for Mia, if you say something positive [08:59] about China, okay, you're in Taiwan, [09:02] here you are. You're Taiwanese, you're [09:04] on the camera, you say something [09:05] positive about China. [09:08] People in Taiwan [09:10] who hear that might say like wait, why [09:13] are you saying anything positive about [09:15] China? Like you can't say anything. Like [09:17] this is crazy. You need to not say [09:18] anything about China unless it's [09:21] negative or something. [09:24] >> Yeah, I mean I'm sure my stepmom's [09:26] watching and we're we'll be at the the [09:28] dinner table [09:29] talking about you know, whatever just [09:31] politics or just anything. We know [09:33] that's what the dinner table's for is [09:33] talking about anything. [09:35] And um I don't want I don't want my [09:38] family to get the impression that I'm [09:39] anti-Israel because I'm not. And and and [09:42] in turn, you know, I think a lot of [09:44] Jewish people and even Israelis would [09:46] get the sense that if you're [09:47] anti-Israel, then you're I'm like self [09:51] I don't know what the word is, but I'm [09:52] I'm against myself. [09:53] >> I got you. I got you. But you haven't [09:55] you've not been to Israel yet? [09:56] >> I've not been there, but I will be [09:58] there. Okay. [09:58] >> I've spent plenty of time there. Dude, [10:00] Israelis you Jews in the US don't got to [10:03] worry about criticizing Israel. All the [10:05] criticism, bro, all the criticism is [10:08] inside of Israel with Jews critique [10:10] Israelis critiquing Israel, man. [10:13] >> If I want to speak about how I think [10:14] that like illegal set- like illegal [10:16] settlements in the West Bank are wrong, [10:18] I don't want to say that's because [10:20] Jewish people are are [10:23] um violating the [10:25] Geneva Conventions, right? It's that the [10:27] government is doing something wrong, not [10:29] the people. [10:29] >> All right. Okay. That's fair. That's [10:31] very It's very thoughtful. Um yo, [10:35] is he censoring himself? To what degree [10:38] is he censoring himself? [10:40] >> [snorts] [10:40] >> He don't. [10:43] I mean, I can see that he's being like a [10:45] bit careful on what he's saying cuz [10:48] obviously he's being recorded and other [10:51] people might like criticize on him what [10:54] he's like talking about against Israel [10:56] or like about Israel or [10:59] or about other countries. [11:00] >> How much What To what degree do you feel [11:03] like he's censoring? Like how much? When [11:06] when you think about everything he just [11:08] said, how much do you think he's [11:11] holding back versus what he's freely [11:14] saying? [11:15] >> As everyone know, it's kind of sensitive [11:17] topic right now cuz of all the awards [11:21] and stuff. [11:22] I mean, I can't tell like how much he's [11:25] like censoring himself, but like [11:28] um [11:30] Yeah, it's it's pretty obvious that not [11:33] saying like everything he wants to say. [11:35] And and how how is that? Is that okay? [11:38] >> I mean [11:39] I think it's totally fine because [11:42] maybe he just doesn't want anyone else [11:44] to like know his his own opinion. [11:47] And yeah, you know, it's a bit like too [11:49] sensitive to like speak out loud in like [11:51] the whole public. [11:52] >> So, you know, like for example for you, [11:55] you know how Koreans are, man, online. [11:58] So, if you say if you say the wrong [11:59] thing here, you know the Koreans are [12:01] going to grab that [12:03] >> [laughter] [12:04] >> explain to people what's going to happen [12:06] to you if you say if you misspeak. [12:10] >> If I like say something that [12:13] Yeah, it's which is really [12:16] um really um sensitive in Korea. If I [12:19] say anything against them or anything or [12:22] if I say anything that they don't think [12:24] it's right, then they would just like [12:26] attack me in like YouTube comments and [12:29] everything. [12:30] >> Yeah, like like like [12:32] it's it's an it's a [12:35] >> the whole whole crowd just like yeah. [12:37] >> It's all going to be one voice. It [12:38] wouldn't be like Israeli. The Israelis [12:40] would attack you from a thousand [12:42] different voices. But him, it's one [12:44] voice, man, all saying the same thing. [12:46] In In Saudi? [12:49] How is it in Saudi? Do you guys gang up [12:50] on people online? [12:52] Or do you not do you people nobody says [12:55] anything critical of [12:56] >> If you do say something, I do believe [12:57] like the the people like will view [12:59] negatively like, "Oh, why is he talking [13:01] bad about his country? Why is he [13:02] betraying his country?" It's like what [13:04] he said about like if you talk about [13:06] like if he talks about Israel, people [13:07] going to think he's anti-Israel when he [13:09] isn't. I feel like if I do say something [13:11] wrong, some Saudis might be like, "Oh, [13:12] hey, like why are you betraying why are [13:14] you like betraying yourself you know, [13:16] betraying your country?" [13:17] >> The professor's name is Sam Richards and [13:19] we've covered many of his videos in the [13:21] past. He's incredible at exposing the [13:24] hypocrisy [13:25] of the anti-Israel movement. They'll [13:28] condemn Israel, but they'll completely [13:29] ignore what the Islamists are doing. [13:32] They'll say that Israel committed [13:33] genocide [13:34] in Gaza and just completely like avert [13:37] their eyes from what's happening in [13:39] Yemen. [13:40] And many of these activists try to [13:42] pretend like they are, you know, they [13:44] care about all atrocities. No, but you [13:46] only seem to care when you think you can [13:49] blame it on Israel. And uh Sam Richards [13:52] is the best at exposing that double [13:55] standard. [13:56] It's like suddenly you care about people [13:58] dying in the other part of the world if [14:02] Israel can be [14:04] the oppressor. [14:05] And when Israel is the victim, [14:08] you're nowhere to be seen. Thank you for [14:10] watching and I'll see you [14:11] in the next one.
