Transcript [00:17] Hey everyone. So, in all the talk about [00:19] uh what's going to happen next in the [00:20] Gaza Strip and President Trump [00:23] continuing to insist that Hamas agreed [00:27] to disarm, that they agreed to lay down [00:29] their weapons. He says it over and over [00:30] again every time he talks about the [00:32] issue. He said it most recently last [00:34] week at the Davos World Economic Forum [00:36] meeting that they agreed to do it. And [00:40] I've been pointing out on my other [00:42] content on the Israel 365 YouTube [00:44] channel and also in my writings and um [00:47] you know I write columns in the [00:48] Jerusalem Post, I've been saying over [00:50] and over again that Hamas never agreed [00:53] to do that. And you just have to pay [00:54] attention to what they actually say. Um [00:57] and they've been saying from the [00:58] beginning they never agreed to do that. [00:59] Now I don't think that President Trump [01:01] is lying. I think that someone probably [01:03] told President Trump, probably the [01:04] probably the Qataris [01:06] or or or the Turks or both or someone [01:09] like that probably told President Trump, [01:11] "No, no, no, don't worry. Kamas agreed. [01:13] They will, you know, don't worry, [01:15] they'll disarm." But Kamas insists that [01:19] they will not disarm. And I want to show [01:20] you how adamant they are and how [01:23] recently they've been saying this. So, [01:24] here is an interview with Musa Abu [01:27] Marzuk. He is one of the top top people [01:29] in Kamas. one of the last remaining like [01:32] top older founders of kamas from the [01:35] original students of Shik Ahmed Yasin of [01:38] the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood the [01:39] founders of kamas he's in his 70s he's [01:42] been one of their top leaders from the [01:44] beginning he gave an interview on al [01:46] jazer in Arabic in Qatar on the 28th of [01:51] January so that's two days ago two days [01:54] ago he gave this interview and let's [01:57] look at what he has to say because he [01:58] doesn't only talk about the disarmament [02:01] issue. He also talks about uh Kamas's [02:05] whole approach to this next phase and it [02:07] gives us a bit of an inkling of what we [02:10] can expect to be dealing with with Kamas [02:12] in the coming days. Let's take a look at [02:14] this and then we will come back and talk [02:16] about it. [02:23] foreign. [03:01] Dr. [03:09] forch. [03:41] was [04:09] the [04:15] Okay. So, this is as I said, this is I [04:18] think uh this is a bombshell, you know, [04:21] cuz let's talk about it. [04:24] So, Musa Abu Barzuk, what's he saying [04:26] here? That uh that the uh that kamas [04:30] never agreed to disarm, right? You see [04:33] that? Never agreed. What are you talking [04:34] about? We never talked about [04:35] disarmament. We never agreed to disarm. [04:37] So, they insist that. But then when he [04:39] was pressed on it by the interviewer, [04:40] look at what he pointed out. He said, [04:42] "The 20 point agreement, 20 point plan [04:45] of Trump says a lot of vague things [04:47] about disarmament." Now, he said [04:49] something that was kind of half true. Uh [04:51] he said, "Well, there's a lot there's [04:53] three different options in the plan for [04:54] disarmament." It talks about which is [04:56] not exactly true. He is correct, though. [04:58] I say it's half true because the biggest [05:01] hole, the biggest flaw in the Trump [05:03] 20point plan is that it does not make [05:06] clear what disarmament is supposed to [05:09] look like. That is again that is the big [05:13] problem with it. Um, you know, let's [05:16] just take a look at the at the Trump [05:18] 20point plan, okay? And and we'll see [05:20] there and we'll see there that that that [05:23] he's right. There is actually uh there's [05:26] actually not any any uh any real plan [05:30] for it. So here, let me just pull it up [05:32] and then I'll uh I'll show you what [05:33] we're talking about. Okay, so here is [05:37] here's the Trump 20point plan and you [05:39] see we'll we'll scroll down here. Here's [05:42] what it says. The first time it mentions [05:45] the disarming of kamas is here here uh [05:49] in number five. Okay, it says once all [05:53] the hostage I'm sorry, number six, once [05:55] all the hostages are returned, kamas [05:57] members who commit to peaceful [05:59] coexistence and to decommission their [06:01] weapons will be given amnesty. So there [06:03] it doesn't it just says that kamas [06:06] members who want amnesty, who don't want [06:07] to be killed or arrested can lay down [06:09] their weapons. It doesn't but doesn't [06:11] really talk about who's going to take [06:12] the weapons away. And the next time it [06:14] talks about Kamas's weapons, [06:18] um, it it it's it's way down here. Let [06:23] me find it here. Kamas and other [06:26] factions agree to not This is point 13 [06:28] already. Kamas Hamas and other factions [06:31] agree to not have any role in the [06:33] governance of Gaza, directly, [06:35] indirectly, or in any form. All military [06:38] terror and offensive infrastructure, [06:40] including tunnels and weapons [06:41] productions facilities, will be [06:43] destroyed and not rebuilt. So that's not [06:44] about weapons, but it's about their [06:46] infrastructure. Here we go. This is the [06:48] key line. There will be a process of [06:52] demilitarization of Gaza under the [06:55] supervision of independent monitors [06:57] which will include placing weapons [06:59] permanently beyond use through an agreed [07:04] process of decommissioning and supported [07:07] by an internationally funded buyback and [07:10] reintegration program all verified by [07:13] the independent monitors. This is all a [07:17] word salad that basically says that [07:19] somehow kamas will be demilitarized. It [07:22] does not say who will do it. It'll say [07:24] it'll be supervised by independent [07:26] monitors. But who's taking away the [07:28] weapons? [07:30] It will include placing the weapons [07:32] beyond use. What does that mean? By who? [07:34] Who? Who's taking the weapons? An agreed [07:37] upon process of decommissioning. Agreed [07:39] upon by who? Doesn't say. So when I said [07:42] that Musa Abu Marzuk was sort of right [07:44] when he said that hey there's a lot of [07:45] things that are left open by this plan [07:48] about what demilitar demilitarization [07:50] means. He's he's not again he's not far [07:54] off uh the because it is a big hole in [07:58] the Trump plan. But you also saw in [08:00] there I think what's so significant [08:01] about this clip is besides the fact that [08:04] he's insisting that they never agreed to [08:05] lay down their weapons. I think the most [08:07] significant thing is is is we get a [08:09] window into what they're planning in the [08:11] negotiations. What does it mean to lay [08:13] down weapons? Which weapons get laid [08:15] down? Who makes these decisions? And [08:17] also, why do we need an an international [08:20] force to come in and be the be the man [08:23] police force for the Gaza Strip? Why [08:25] can't it just be the, you know, the [08:27] people who are there already? Well, [08:28] who's the people who are there already? [08:31] Gaza police are Hamas. Hamas is is the [08:33] only power there. So he he's looking for [08:36] different gray areas in the Trump [08:39] 20point plan that leave open that leave [08:42] room for kamas to remain in control [08:45] because if the if the police force there [08:48] is going to be local Palestinians rather [08:50] than outsiders. Okay, it'll be local [08:54] Palestinians who aren't kamas, but then [08:56] it'll end up being kamas anyway. Or if [08:59] who do we give the weapons to? How is [09:02] this supposed to happen? Why is it [09:03] supposed to happen? And notice he threw [09:05] in another question there. How does this [09:07] new body make statements? Why does he [09:09] care so much about who how do they make [09:10] statements? Because for terrorist [09:13] organizations, and you see this with all [09:15] these terrorist organizations, the [09:18] information warfare, the propaganda, the [09:21] fear-mongering, this and and all the [09:23] posturing they do verbally is very [09:26] important to their whole strategy. So [09:28] he's concerned, this is an interesting [09:30] window into how they think. he's [09:32] concerned with in the new apparatus that [09:34] gets set up, who controls the messaging [09:37] of this new apparatus because that can [09:39] determine a lot of things. So, this is a [09:41] fascinating clip. Again, gives us a [09:42] window in to how kamas is thinking. But [09:45] most importantly, if you're having [09:46] conversations with your friends about [09:47] what's going on in Gaza and you say just [09:49] and you want to be confident and say to [09:51] them, listen, kamas has no intention of [09:53] giving up their weapons. They never [09:54] agreed to it. The more recent and [09:58] authoritative a quote you can show them, [10:00] the better. This is again from January [10:02] 28th, two days ago. One of the top [10:05] people in Kamas saying that they never [10:08] agreed to disarm. So, this is a very [10:10] important video. Make sure to like it [10:11] and share it and and uh and please tell [10:13] other people about the channel and uh [10:16] and all, as always, make sure to check [10:17] out what's going on at Israel 365. I'll [10:20] point out specifically on the Israel 365 [10:23] YouTube channel. If you go to playlists, [10:25] go to the playlists there. When you go [10:27] to the YouTube channel, Israel 365, [10:29] click playlists and there is a playlist [10:31] of six videos, six short videos that I [10:33] made that lay out the case that Israel [10:37] has become a regional superpower in the [10:39] Middle East. And it's so it's a six- [10:41] part series is I I think it's really uh [10:44] interesting. I hope so. I uh and uh I [10:46] just wanted to recommend it to you. Go [10:48] ahead and check it out there. All right, [10:49] be well. God bless.
