Transcript [00:00] So last week I set off a firestorm of [00:02] controversy when I revealed on the Aaron [00:05] Milan show and you probably saw me talk [00:07] about it on this channel that some a [00:11] very important sensitive private [00:13] screenshot from a chat group that I was [00:15] in with Charlie Kirk was leaked by Joe [00:18] Kent to Candace Owens. And if you don't [00:21] know what I'm talking about, go back and [00:22] watch that video from last week. Excuse [00:26] me. Go back and watch that video from [00:27] last week where I talk about that. But [00:29] it it ended up turning into something [00:31] much bigger and it it turned into this [00:33] viral back and forth between me and [00:34] Candace Owens towards the end of the [00:37] week. The reason I want to make a video [00:40] about this now is that in all of the [00:42] back and forth and the different things [00:44] that different people involved said [00:45] about this situation, lost in the [00:48] shuffle were a number of details that [00:50] came out that are actually extremely [00:52] important, not to me or to Candace [00:55] Owens, but they're extremely important [00:57] to the whole story of uh how Israel is [01:01] viewed by certain quarters of the [01:04] American political spectrum, [01:06] specifically on the right, and what [01:08] might be going on inside the US [01:11] government with some anti-Israel [01:13] elements there. And there's actually a [01:15] real scandal that really should be [01:18] investigated in this story. And that's [01:20] why I'm making this video. Now, before [01:23] we go on with that, before we get on, [01:26] please uh make sure to go over to Israel [01:28] 365 News YouTube channel, and if you're [01:31] not subscribed there, subscribe there as [01:34] well. If you like the content on this [01:35] channel, you will definitely love the [01:37] content there. Goes back much further. [01:40] I' I've only been putting videos on [01:42] videos on this channel for a couple of [01:43] months, but uh it's been a few years on [01:45] Israel 365 News. We put up videos every [01:47] day pretty much. And uh very important [01:51] videos, a lot of interviews that I do. [01:52] We have a a recent interview I did with [01:54] Nick Freighus. Uh that's just a it's [01:57] it's right there on the top line of the [01:58] page. You'll see it. Fantastic [02:00] interview. Uh, and uh, there's also a [02:03] video I just did a couple days ago about [02:05] Lebanon, about the structure of the [02:07] Lebanese government. And without without [02:09] understanding the bizarre, completely [02:11] bizarre, you watch this video, your jaw [02:13] is going to drop. Without understanding [02:15] the bizarre history of the modern state [02:17] of Lebanon and how its government is [02:18] structured, it's actually impossible to [02:20] understand all of the stuff going on [02:22] withah and the and and and anything [02:25] having to do with Lebanon. You really [02:26] don't understand it unless you [02:28] understand how the Lebanese government [02:30] works. So, that's another example of a [02:32] good video that's up there. And I always [02:33] like to point out in the playlist [02:35] section on that channel, there's a [02:37] playlist called Israel as a regional [02:39] superpower. Very important video series [02:41] giving you an overview of how I view [02:44] everything that's happened in the Middle [02:45] East and how things have changed since [02:47] October 7th. So, go ahead and take a [02:49] look at all that right now. Okay, let's [02:50] get into this crazy story. So, on March [02:54] 17th, Joe Kent uh resigned. He had been [02:58] the national [03:00] counterterrorism center director. Okay, [03:02] so he worked for Tulsi Gabbard in the [03:05] who was the director of national [03:06] intelligence and again he was head of [03:08] the counterterrorism center and he [03:10] resigned and here's his resignation [03:11] letter. [03:14] President Trump, after much reflection, [03:16] I've decided to resign from my position [03:18] as director of the National [03:19] Counterterrorism Center effective today. [03:21] I cannot in good conscience support the [03:24] ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no [03:27] imminent threat to our nation and it is [03:29] clear that we started this war due to [03:31] pressure from Israel and its powerful [03:33] American lobby. I support the values and [03:35] the foreign policies that you campaigned [03:37] on in 2016 2020 2024 which you enacted [03:42] in your first term until June of 2025. [03:46] You understood that the wars in the [03:48] Middle East were a trap that robbed [03:50] America of the precious lives of our [03:52] patriots and depleted the wealth and [03:55] prosperity of our nation. In your first [03:57] administration, you understood better [03:59] than any modern president how to [04:01] decisively apply military power without [04:04] getting us drawn into neverending wars. [04:07] Your demonstration, sorry, you [04:09] demonstrated this by killing [04:10] Kasamsulammani and defeating ISIS. Early [04:13] in this administration, [04:15] highranking Israeli officials and [04:18] influential members of the American [04:19] media deployed a misinformation campaign [04:23] that wholly undermined your America [04:26] first platform. Wholly undermined your [04:28] America first platform and sowed pro-war [04:31] sentiments to encourage a war with Iran. [04:33] Okay, so he's accusing high-ranking [04:35] Israeli officials of deploying a [04:37] misinformation campaign. [04:39] This echo chamber was used to deceive [04:41] you into believing that Iran posed an [04:45] imminent threat to the United States. [04:48] That is not true. No one ever claimed [04:50] there was an imminent threat to the [04:51] United States. We'll get to that later. [04:53] And that should strike and that you [04:55] should strike now. There was a clear and [04:58] that there was a clear path to a swift [05:00] victory. This was a lie and is the same [05:03] tactic the Israelis used to draw us into [05:06] the disastrous Iraq war that cost our [05:09] nation the lives of thousands of our [05:11] best men and women. We cannot make this [05:13] mistake again. As a veteran who deployed [05:15] to combat 11 times, and as a gold star [05:18] husband who lost my beloved wife Shannon [05:20] in a war manufactured by Israel, I [05:23] cannot support sending the next [05:24] generation off to fight and die in a war [05:27] that serves no benefit to the American [05:29] people, nor justifies the cost of [05:31] American lives. I pray that you will [05:34] reflect upon what we are doing in Iran [05:36] and who we are doing it for. The time [05:38] for bold action is now. You can reverse [05:41] course and chart a new path for our [05:43] nation. Or you can allow us to slip [05:45] further toward decline and chaos. You [05:48] hold the cards. Such an obnoxious, [05:50] arrogant letter. It was an honor to [05:52] serve you in your administration. To [05:53] serve in your administration, to serve [05:55] our great nation, Joseph Kent. Okay, [05:59] that's his resignation letter filled [06:00] with anti-Israel conspiracy theories [06:03] talking about how Israel dragged the US [06:04] into the Iraq war, which is completely [06:06] far-fetched. I don't understand that at [06:08] all. And I understand the Middle East [06:10] pretty well. Um, saying also that Iran [06:12] posed no imminent threat to America. [06:14] Look, this is a straw man. When whenever [06:18] people say that the that that the [06:21] problem with the Iran war is that it [06:22] posed no imminent threat or there was no [06:24] imminent threat of nuclear weapons, that [06:26] is a straw man because no one has ever [06:28] claimed that there was an imminent [06:30] threat of nuclear attack. [06:33] What was claimed and what continues to [06:34] be claimed by Secretary of State Marco [06:36] Rubio mentions it all the time making it [06:39] very clear the problem is the ballistic [06:41] missile program was ramping up. They had [06:44] gone from producing 30 to 50 ballistic [06:46] missiles per month to producing over a [06:48] 100 per month and the ballistic and they [06:51] were getting longer range and better [06:52] ballistic missiles. And the problem was [06:54] that once they had a a by building out [06:56] the ballistic missile program, they were [06:58] providing a shield to their nuclear [07:01] program that would make it impossible to [07:03] take out their nuclear program. So they [07:05] had and and many other crimes of the [07:09] regime. Okay, be that as it may, that's [07:10] Joe Kent's resignation letter. So that [07:12] happened on March 17th. [07:15] And right after that dropped the there [07:18] was push back, a little bit of a leak [07:21] and a little bit of statements from from [07:23] inside the uh the administration. We'll [07:26] let Laura Ingram say it. Here we go. [07:30] >> Sources are saying that Joe Kent, the [07:33] former director of the uh United States [07:35] National Counterterrorist Center, this [07:37] is from Semaphore, he just resigned. [07:40] He's now under FBI investigation for [07:43] allegedly leaking classified information [07:47] and the investigation predates [07:51] his departure. [07:55] So even before he resigned, he was [07:58] already being investigated for leaking. [08:01] And it then came out some reports from [08:03] inside the administration that he for a [08:05] while was already had already been [08:06] excluded from intelligence briefings. [08:09] And there's also rumors, pretty strong [08:11] rumors that Tulsi Gabbard, his boss, was [08:13] being pressured to fire him and was [08:14] refusing to do so. So this all breaks. [08:17] So he resigns. This story about him [08:20] being a leaker breaks. And I'm watching [08:22] this very closely because of the [08:25] information that I knew about Joe Kent, [08:27] which I'll get to in a moment. Now, [08:28] after I heard about this story, I [08:30] noticed a post on X by Nathan [08:34] Livingston, who goes by the handle [08:36] Milkbar. Okay? And look what he writes [08:38] here. Was Joe Candace Owens mole in the [08:41] US government feeding her information [08:43] about Charlie about the Charlie Kirk [08:45] investigation? [08:46] So you know that Candace Owens has been [08:48] pedalling this conspiracy theory that [08:49] the Israelis were behind the [08:51] assassination of Charlie Kirk. Okay, so [08:53] let's get to it. On October 1st, 2025, [08:56] so it's less than a month after Charlie [08:57] was Charlie was assassinated on [08:59] September 10th. On October 1st, 2025, [09:02] Candace Owens said that she was very [09:04] aware of what's going on and claimed [09:06] that about 48 hours before Charlie Kirk [09:10] died, Charlie Kirk informed people at [09:12] Turning Point, Jewish donors as well as [09:15] a rabbi that he had no choice but to [09:17] abandon the pro-Israel cause. She was [09:20] directly quoting a message Charlie Kirk [09:22] had sent in a group chat before his [09:24] death, a message Candace revealed on her [09:27] show a week later. And that's the that's [09:30] the group chat message that we've been [09:31] talking about that I've been talking [09:33] about that I talked about on the Aaron [09:35] Milan show. So here's the here's the [09:37] chat itself. Okay. So this was a group [09:39] chat. Nine people in the chat. I was one [09:40] of them. Charlie put it together to talk [09:42] about Israel. Uh and I've gone into this [09:45] before. You can watch the previous [09:46] video. I talk about the relationship a [09:48] little bit more there. [09:50] And in that was the whole purpose of the [09:53] chat was to talk about Israel issues. [09:55] Charlie would raise issues. he'd want to [09:56] talk about um something in the [09:58] headlines, he'd want answers. I was his [10:00] resource in Israel. I was the only one [10:02] in the chat in Israel. So, I was his [10:04] resource in Israel. And this was a very [10:06] confidential chat. And what happened was [10:10] that Charlie Kirk lost a big donor that [10:14] day. This was a Jewish donor. He says [10:16] another huge Jewish donor. number of [10:18] Jewish donors pulled out their support [10:20] of Turning Point between July and when [10:23] Charlie was assassinated because in [10:26] early July at a a large Turning Point [10:29] event called the Student Action Summit, [10:32] Tucker Carlson gave a speech that went [10:35] beyond being critical of Israel. It was [10:37] downright anti-Semitic. It was full of [10:39] conspiracy theories about the Jews and [10:41] and he he went on he he attacked uh Bill [10:44] Aman. was a really weird speech and it [10:47] got condemned by the entire Jewish [10:49] community, by a lot of people for being, [10:51] you know, for crossing the line into [10:52] anti-semitism. [10:54] Okay. Um, I didn't like the speech [10:57] either, but Charlie came under a lot of [10:59] fire at that point. People were saying [11:01] that Turning Point USA is is platforming [11:03] anti-semmites, is enabling [11:05] anti-semitism, and there was a lot of [11:07] pressure on Turning Point to distance uh [11:10] on Charlie to distance themselves from [11:12] from Tucker. But there was also just a [11:15] lot of a lot of harsh criticism and and [11:18] uh you know thrown at Charlie at the [11:20] time. And Charlie was very resentful [11:22] about this. Um he he was someone who [11:26] honestly with every fiber of his being [11:29] believed in the open marketplace of [11:31] ideas that if you don't like something [11:33] someone says the right way to deal with [11:34] it is to debate. That's why he became so [11:37] famous doing those debates that he's [11:39] that we all know and love that he's [11:40] famous for. those little clips of him [11:42] debating people. That that's how he [11:44] built his his uh his whole movement was [11:48] on open discussion and open debate. That [11:50] was really what he believed in. And he [11:53] and therefore he bristled when people [11:54] said that that you should cancel this [11:57] person. Now obviously they were saying, [11:58] "Listen, we you know this crosses the [12:00] line of regular debate. You know, Tucker [12:02] is pedalling conspiracy theories. This [12:03] is outright anti-semitism." But Charlie [12:05] didn't see it that way. And the Jewish [12:07] community was hammering on Charlie. and [12:08] and and part of the reason that Charlie [12:10] was was hurt by this and resentful of it [12:13] is that Charlie defended Israel like [12:16] every day. Okay, most people didn't [12:18] realize that about 40 to 50% of the [12:20] questions he got on those college uh [12:23] debate events would be about Israel [12:26] because Charlie was a well-known [12:27] defender of Israel. A lot of people on [12:29] college campuses are anti-Israel and he [12:31] would get asked about Israel all the [12:32] time which drove him crazy. He wanted to [12:34] talk about America. He wasn't he didn't [12:36] want to be talking about Israel all the [12:38] time. But bottom line is Charlie was [12:40] someone who was constantly defending [12:41] Israel even though he had misgivings and [12:43] he had his criticisms and he had issues [12:46] with Prime Minister Nathan Yahoo. He had [12:48] issues with the Iran war, the 12-day [12:49] war. He had his disagreements, but he [12:51] still defended Israel all the way to the [12:53] end. He had me on his show a couple [12:55] weeks before he was killed to it just in [12:58] order to debunk the claim that Israel [13:00] was starving uh gazins. and he got very [13:05] criticized on the right by anti-Israel [13:07] voices on the right for for doing that [13:09] segment with me which he also tweeted [13:11] out, you know, to amplify it. Um, the [13:15] last guest on his show on September 9th [13:17] was Ben Shapiro. I mean, Charlie [13:20] remained publicly pro-Israel with [13:22] criticisms. That's kind of how it was. [13:24] But a lot of his donors were basically [13:27] like, listen, I'm not going to fund [13:28] Turning Point if you're going to keep, [13:30] you know, having Tucker Carlson as a [13:31] headline act. And one of those donors [13:34] backed out on on September 9th, a guy [13:38] who would give him $2 million a year. So [13:40] So Charlie wrote in our chat group, "I [13:43] was one of the recipients of this [13:44] message. Just lost another huge Jewish [13:46] donor. $2 million a year because we [13:48] won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of [13:49] inviting Candace Ug, right?" Says one of [13:53] the other members of the group. And then [13:55] Charlie, you know, he's lashing out. He [13:57] was angry. Jewish donors play into all [13:58] the stereotypes. I cannot and will not [14:00] be bullied like this. this leaving me no [14:02] choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause [14:05] and then someone pushes back. Please [14:07] don't invite Candace. It might feel good [14:09] short-term. It's not a good idea. Okay, [14:11] let me pause and just make a [14:12] philosophical comment about the whole [14:15] issue of of public versus private [14:19] comments people make. You know, because [14:20] there's this there's this perception out [14:22] there when people see a private comment, [14:24] they're like, "Oo, this is who the [14:25] person really is." But what's the [14:27] problem with that? Think about yourself. [14:30] We all say things in private in moments [14:33] of high emotion. Combination of being in [14:35] private and being upset. We all say [14:38] things that we don't really mean. Oh, [14:41] isn't that the real you? Well, not [14:42] necessarily. Here's an analogy. Imagine [14:45] that I was raised Imagine someone was [14:47] raised to be a racist. They were raised [14:48] by racist parents who taught them to be [14:50] a racist and really inculcated in them [14:52] this fear of people of of a certain [14:54] color or whatever. But as that person [14:57] grows up, they say, you know, I don't [14:58] want to be a racist. I disagree with [15:00] that. But they still have the [15:01] stereotypes kind of like in their [15:03] subconscious and they were raised with [15:05] it. It's hard to it's hard to step away [15:07] from that. But they're working on [15:09] themselves and they don't want to be a [15:10] racist and they actively work on [15:12] changing their perceptions and and their [15:14] relationships and what they say. [15:16] If in a fit of rage a person like that [15:19] lets loose a racist comment, does that [15:21] mean that really he's a racist? The [15:23] person spending his life working on it, [15:25] trying to prevent it. Okay, this isn't [15:27] exactly the analogy to Charlie. It's not [15:29] like he was working against something. [15:30] I'm just saying what people say in [15:32] private [15:34] isn't necessarily who they are in this. [15:36] And you know, we're human beings. We [15:38] have agency. We have free will. We get [15:39] to choose who we're going to be. So, I [15:42] don't buy this whole thing that what [15:43] people say in private is who they really [15:44] are. Look, bottom line is this. [15:47] Charlie's views on Israel were [15:49] complicated. And as someone who was very [15:51] close to the situation, I talked to [15:53] Charlie about Israel every day. That was [15:56] literally what my relationship was. [15:58] exchange, not every day. We didn't talk [15:59] every day, but there was exchanges of [16:01] messages, asking questions, sharing news [16:03] items, giving comment on them, uh, you [16:06] know, finding out the truth about [16:08] something, getting good getting better [16:10] source material. That was that's but it [16:12] was all about Israel. I know as well as [16:14] any I I wasn't one of Charlie's best [16:16] friends, but I know as well as anybody [16:18] what his views on Israel were because we [16:20] talked about them all the time. And he, [16:21] as you see from this from this message, [16:23] he was very open in the chat. And I've [16:25] always been very open after he was after [16:27] he was assassinated that he wavered on [16:29] Israel and that he had his misgivings, [16:31] but he was still generally supportive [16:33] even though he had his criticisms and he [16:34] had his doubts and he and and it was a [16:37] constant, you know, constant process [16:40] with him. [16:42] So he said this, but what he meant here, [16:45] it's very clear. He was still doing [16:46] pro-Israel segments on his show. [16:50] He wasn't afraid of anybody. He didn't [16:52] need to do that. [16:55] What Charlie was upset about was the was [16:58] he's getting all this criticism from the [17:00] Jewish community being called an [17:02] anti-semite even though he's defending [17:04] Israel every day. It drove him nuts. He [17:06] was just sick and tired of the [17:07] pro-Israel crowd because of the way this [17:11] is the way he saw it, the way he was [17:12] being treated. And then he has these [17:14] donors pulling out and it was bothering [17:16] him. So he lashed out. Okay. Later that [17:19] evening, later that same evening, we had [17:22] a Zoom call that was scheduled from way [17:24] in advance and it was scheduled for that [17:26] evening because it was the night before [17:28] his campus tour began and he wanted to [17:31] meet to talk about Israel issues. Okay, [17:33] this is all stuff I've said in previous [17:34] videos. Okay, so here's that. That's the [17:36] screenshot. Let's go back to Nathan [17:37] Livingston and what he put in his tweet [17:40] because it's a very interesting tweet, [17:42] very important. So he mentions that he [17:44] mentions the text group. [17:48] He says she was directly quoting a [17:49] message Kirk had sent to a group chat. [17:51] Fine. [17:53] TPA spokesperson Andrew Kulovit revealed [17:55] the next day. So after Candace reveals [17:57] the the screenshot that screenshot [18:00] Candace put it on her show on October I [18:03] think 6th or 7th. [18:06] Andrew Kovit revealed the next day, I [18:08] guess October 8th, that he was in the [18:10] group chat and had taken that screenshot [18:13] and that to leave no stone unturned, he [18:15] had passed it on to quote people in the [18:17] government for the sake of the [18:19] investigation into Charlie Kirk's death, [18:21] saying, "I don't know where it went from [18:22] there." Pointing to the fact that it [18:24] landed in Candace Owen's lap. The New [18:27] York Times reported on October 28th, [18:30] follow this here, okay? Because I didn't [18:31] discuss this in earlier videos. The New [18:34] York Times reported on October 28th that [18:36] Joe Kent, while still serving as [18:38] director of the United States National [18:40] Counterterrorism Center, had examined [18:42] FBI files in the last several weeks to [18:46] investigate whether the man charged with [18:48] assassinating Charlie Kirk had support [18:51] from someone else, a foreign power, [18:53] another entity, according to multiple [18:55] people with knowledge of the matter, [18:57] which according to the Times article [18:59] alarmed Cash Patel. Cash Patel, the [19:02] director of the FBI, was alarmed that [19:05] that Joe Kent was looking into the [19:09] Charlie Kirk assassination and trying to [19:11] see if it's connected to any foreign [19:12] entity. [19:15] Mr. Patel and other senior officials [19:17] believe that Mr. Kent was overstepping, [19:19] treading on FBI responsibilities, and [19:21] potentially interfering with the [19:23] investigation and the prosecution of the [19:25] suspect, Tyler Robinson. After resigning [19:28] from his role as director of the United [19:30] States National Counterterrorism Center, [19:32] Joe Kent appeared on Tucker Carlson's [19:34] show today, meaning on the day that that [19:37] Nathan Livingston posts this article, [19:40] post this post, speaking about the [19:42] Charlie Kirk investigation, he said, [19:44] quote, "There's still linkage for us to [19:47] investigate." and Kent pointed directly [19:50] to the group chat text messages that [19:53] Andrew Kulit had handed over to the US [19:55] government and that Candace Owens had [19:58] used on her show as evidence of that. It [20:02] was also reported today that Joe Kend is [20:04] under investigation by the FBI for [20:05] leaking. We talked about that already. [20:07] And then he says, "Hey, wait a second. [20:09] Considering that Candace Owens is [20:10] talking about the Charlie Kirk [20:13] assassination and she's got the text [20:14] message [20:16] and the message was passed to someone in [20:19] the government and Kent was reviewing [20:22] sensitive case material about the [20:23] Charlie Kirk assassination. Is it [20:25] possible that it's him? So I read this I [20:27] read this and I was like, "Oh my gosh, [20:29] someone figured it out." because I knew [20:31] for a while already that Joe Kent was [20:33] the guy who got the text message from [20:35] Andrew and gave it to Candace or someone [20:38] in his office basically gave it to [20:40] Candace. [20:41] I I had known that for a while and never [20:43] revealed it. There was no reason to. But [20:45] here I was like I was like, "Wait a [20:47] second. This guy writes this virulently [20:50] anti-Israel conspiracy [20:52] anti-Israel resignation letter." [20:56] And now Nathan is pointing out here that [20:58] he had been investigating the Charlie [20:59] Kirk assassination and in an interview [21:02] with Tucker Carlson mentioned the [21:04] screenshots, the famous text message. So [21:07] I I did something I never do and I [21:09] watched the episode of Tucker Carlson. [21:11] And in the episode of Tucker Carlson, [21:14] Joe K says when he's talking about the [21:17] text message, he says, "Well, we all we [21:20] all know about the text message that was [21:22] made public." And I was like, "What are [21:24] you talking about? You made it public, [21:25] dude. So, I went on the Aaron Milan show [21:28] and I revealed this. Once I did that, [21:31] Andrew Kulvit commented on it and he [21:34] added a very important piece to the [21:36] story that has gotten lost in the [21:37] shuffle and it may be the most important [21:40] key to the scandal that we're looking at [21:43] here. Listen to what Andrew adds to the [21:46] story were shared privately. [21:49] >> I didn't want to be reckless with Joe [21:51] Kent. I provided the screen grabs to Joe [21:54] Kent and that I don't know what happened [21:57] to them at that point. Okay, that I just [21:59] want to make that very clear. [22:01] Eventually, uh Joe did message me and [22:05] suggest that I make those screen grabs [22:07] public. I declined because those were [22:10] shared privately. I didn't want to be [22:12] reckless with them in the public. There [22:13] could be innocent people on that group [22:15] chat that would then be harmed. So, I [22:17] declined. But then fast forward another [22:20] week or two and they were made public. [22:23] So that's what I know is that Joe [22:25] suggested that they be made public. I [22:27] declined. Then they were made public. [22:30] Can I 100% categorically say that he [22:33] leaked them? No. But those are the [22:35] facts. Maybe somebody on his team, maybe [22:38] they got passed around, maybe somebody [22:39] else leaked them. But that's that those [22:42] are the facts of the matter and that's [22:44] what I know. [22:45] >> Okay. [22:46] What he just said is huge. He just added [22:50] in a detail that I didn't know [22:54] is that Joe Kent had [22:57] encouraged him to make the screenshots [23:00] public. [23:02] So, let's follow the chronology here. [23:05] Andrew Kovit gives Joe Kent the [23:07] screenshot because he's the head of the [23:10] national of the Center for National [23:12] National Center for Counterterrorism. [23:13] And as Andrew said there, he's like, [23:15] "Look, I just wanted to cooperate with [23:16] everything. They wanted to, you know, [23:18] they're telling me they're investigating [23:20] every different angle on this. So, I [23:22] gave them whatever they asked for. I [23:23] gave them everything, you know, every [23:25] communicate, you know, he gave them a [23:27] lot of communications that Charlie had [23:29] in the days leading up to his death." [23:31] Okay, [23:33] that's what Andrew did. I'm not [23:34] justifying what Andrew did. Some people [23:36] are upset at him, still upset at him. I [23:37] I'm not sure what he did was the right [23:39] thing. Maybe he should have told us [23:40] first. I don't know. That's a separate [23:42] issue. I want to focus on Joe Kent here. [23:46] So Joe Kent, we know that Joe Kent [23:48] received the text messages from Andrew. [23:50] We know that he wanted them to be made [23:53] public. [23:54] We also know that Candace Owens shortly [23:56] thereafter made them public. But we also [24:00] know that Joe Kent, who told Tucker [24:03] Carlson [24:05] just last week [24:07] that those text messages are very [24:09] important [24:10] and that there are some leads that still [24:13] haven't been followed up on. And I'm [24:15] watching Joe Kent and I'm thinking [24:17] you're the guy who made them public and [24:19] now I'm watching Andrew Kovit and I'm [24:21] thinking what possible justification is [24:24] there if you ask Joe Kent and say wait a [24:26] second you're the director of national [24:27] counterterrorism national director of [24:29] counterterrorism [24:31] and you chose to make these text [24:34] messages public. [24:36] You wanted them to be made public. Why? [24:38] If you believed that this was evidence [24:40] in an ongoing case, what justification [24:43] did you have? What possible agenda could [24:45] you have had to make that screenshot [24:46] public and certainly to hand it to to [24:49] Candace Owens? Now, after I put out my [24:52] video [24:55] and uh first I spoke on Aaron Milan's [24:57] show, Andrew responded, then Candace [25:00] responded to what Andrew had to say, [25:02] denying everything. But in a weird way, [25:04] her denial wasn't denying that Joe Kent [25:07] gave her the text message. She said, [25:08] "Joe Kent did not give me the text [25:10] message for the purpose of harming Erica [25:13] Kirk, which is, as I explained in my [25:15] last video, is a straw man because no [25:16] one ever claimed that she did." Okay, so [25:19] it was an obfiscation. But in that same [25:21] video, she also said something else that [25:24] I did not address in my last video. She [25:27] said that she had never met Joe Kent [25:29] until after the Charlie Kirk [25:31] assassination, which led me to post this [25:36] to ex [25:38] and watch and and in this video here [25:40] that I this short video that I had just [25:43] >> in this short video that I made I [25:45] address this issue but I also play a [25:47] clip of Joe Kent being asked about the [25:50] screenshots because I had leaked them [25:53] not leaked them because I had said that [25:55] Joe Kent gave them to Candace. Mark [25:57] Leavvin who interviewed Joe Kent the [26:00] next day asked him about it and that's [26:02] in this video as well. So let's watch [26:03] this clip very short one minute. Here we [26:05] go. Candace has just told the whole [26:09] world that the director of [26:10] counterterrorism started a communication [26:13] relationship with her after Charlie Kirk [26:16] was assassinated while he was on the job [26:18] in counterterrorism and she was a [26:20] podcaster speaking about this and then [26:22] she has text messages that Andrew says [26:24] he gave to Joe Kent. [26:25] >> I didn't even know Joe Kent at all. Had [26:27] never had a single communication with [26:28] Joe Kent um until after Charlie was [26:31] assassinated. [26:32] >> This is a key point. I'll get back to it [26:33] in a bit. That that is the honest to god [26:36] truth. I didn't know this man at all. [26:38] Joe Kent did not leak me anything for [26:40] the purpose of attacking Erica Kirk. [26:42] >> All she said was that Laura Loomer's [26:45] assertion that the texts were given by [26:48] Joe Kent to Candace in order to hurt [26:51] Erica Kirk was false. And we're supposed [26:54] to believe Joe Kent when he goes on Mark [26:56] Leavvin and says that he never gave the [27:00] text messages to Candace Owens. [27:02] >> Did you give it to Candace Owens? Yes or [27:04] no? [27:05] >> I did. I did not give anything to [27:06] Candace Owens. Now, [27:08] >> I did not give anything to Candace [27:11] Owens. I did not give anything. Let's [27:12] remember that one, too. Okay, so these [27:14] were two key points that happened after [27:16] I made my video, my initial video where [27:20] Candace Owens said [27:23] where I noticed that Candace Owens said [27:25] that she had never met Joe Kent before [27:27] before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. [27:29] And Joe Kent tells Mark Lein that he [27:31] never gave anything to Candace Owens. I [27:34] wonder if you would say that under oath. [27:35] Candace. Okay. So, that is so that's [27:39] what I posted to to X. So, Candace [27:43] responded and said, "This is completely [27:46] untrue. And if you'd like to come on my [27:48] show and discuss it further, you're [27:50] welcome. I love me a rabbi that lies." [27:53] Now, I have to add in Candace um has [27:56] called me a liar repeatedly and she's [27:59] never produced anything that I've ever [28:01] said that is actually a lie. I I deal [28:04] with this a little bit in the in my [28:05] previous video. You should really go [28:06] watch it, but that's a separate issue. [28:09] She continues to call me a lie. I'm [28:10] waiting for her to produce something. [28:12] Okay, so after she invited me on her [28:14] show, I responded as follows. And here [28:16] is the here is the is the crux of this [28:18] whole video. No thanks. I answered your [28:22] questions. Now you answer mine. And if [28:25] you didn't watch my And then I tell her [28:26] to watch my video. So here's the here's [28:28] the questions I put to Candace. I I gave [28:30] five questions to her. And this is the [28:33] whole story. Why did you lie and say [28:36] that the Zoom call the night before the [28:38] murder was made public after you [28:40] released the screenshot of the text? She [28:42] said that. Okay. She said that we only [28:45] came clean, as it were, or made it or [28:48] let the world know that there was a Zoom [28:49] call the night before after she released [28:50] the screenshot. You knew this was false. [28:53] The Zoom call was made public in the New [28:56] York Post on September 13th, right after [28:58] Charlie was was murdered. I was talking [29:00] to a friend of mine and mentioned that I [29:02] had spoken to Charlie the night before. [29:03] That friend of mine knew a reporter at [29:05] the New York Post and asked if I would [29:06] speak to a reporter. I said yes. And I [29:08] gave an interview to the New York Post [29:09] and talked about the fact that I I I had [29:12] met with Charlie the night before and I [29:14] talked about what we talked about. Okay. [29:16] And you I said to Candace, you released [29:18] the screenshot on October 6th. Now, why [29:20] is this an important point? It's [29:23] actually critical because Candace's [29:26] whole conspiracy theory is based on the [29:28] idea that the that that Charlie was [29:31] turning on the on Israel and the people [29:33] in this group, me, Josh Hammer, [29:35] whatever, but but the you know, this [29:36] rabbi from Israel, the people in this [29:38] group had this quick emergency Zoom call [29:41] with him. It didn't go well and the next [29:45] day, Charlie's dead. Okay. Now, so why [29:49] is it so important when it was made [29:50] public? Because if that Zoom call [29:53] implicates [29:55] the pro-Israel people who were on it, [29:57] why on earth would I make it public a [30:00] couple days later? Wouldn't I want to [30:02] bury the existence of that Zoom call? [30:04] So, that's why she wants to make it seem [30:06] like we were hiding the Zoom call and [30:07] that she kind of forced it out of us [30:09] because that feeds the conspiracy theory [30:10] because there's no good explanation for [30:12] why I would make it public on my own two [30:15] days after Charlie was murdered. Am I Am [30:17] I the dumbest Mossad agent in the world? [30:19] Okay, so that's question number one. [30:20] Question number two, I I asked her, "Why [30:22] did you lie and say that I claimed that [30:24] Charlie never blinked or wavered on [30:27] Israel when you played a when you played [30:29] a clip of me on your show in October [30:31] where I said just the opposite, right? [30:32] Because right after Charlie was killed, [30:35] um my relationship with him became [30:37] public. Um it was it was public already. [30:40] I'd been on his show a few times, but uh [30:42] I I did a number of interviews and I did [30:44] an interview where I s where I I I I [30:47] talked about Charlie's views on Israel [30:48] and I talked about the fact that he had [30:50] his criticisms and and Candace actually [30:52] played that clip on her show, but now [30:55] she's claiming [30:57] that I'm a liar because I said that [30:59] Charlie never wavered on Israel. Okay, [31:01] so but that's also critical to her whole [31:04] conspiracy theory. Next number three, [31:06] you say that Joe Kent didn't give you [31:08] the screenshots. Great. Who did? [31:11] Number four, Joe Kent tooured Mark Joe [31:14] Kent told Mark Levvin that he didn't [31:16] give anything to Candace and you said [31:19] that you had never met Kent until after [31:21] Charlie's murder. Are you saying that [31:24] Joe Kent, head of counterterrorism, who [31:27] wanted these screenshots to be made [31:29] public, never gave you any information [31:32] about this, meaning about the about the [31:34] Charlie Kirk assassination? [31:36] Is Kent telling the truth? [31:40] You understand what I'm asking here? [31:43] Joe Kent is the head of [31:45] counterterrorism. He's investigating or [31:47] interested in investigating this [31:49] situation. He wants these screenshots [31:51] made public. He's obsessed with this [31:53] issue. We have the New York Times [31:54] reporting about how he's looking into [31:56] it. We have him telling Tucker Carlson [31:58] that he wanted to follow up on it. This [32:00] is his thing. But he's never met Candace [32:01] yet. And then after the Charlie Kirk [32:03] assassination, he meets Candace Owens. [32:05] She's talking about this every day. [32:08] And we are supposed to believe that [32:10] Candace, who has the screenshot that was [32:12] given to Kent, and both of them are [32:14] talking, this guy's investigating this [32:16] thing obsessively. She's talking about [32:17] it obsessively. And we're supposed to [32:19] believe that that even though they met [32:22] during this time period, Kent never told [32:24] her anything. [32:26] We're supposed to believe that. [32:30] Number five, you say that you came into [32:32] contact with Kent only after the [32:34] assassination on October 29th. You gave [32:38] him a shout out by name for pursuing [32:40] this conspiracy theory. Are you now [32:42] claiming that he was not your source in [32:44] the intelligence community? [32:48] Right. Because she's saying that Joe [32:49] Kent, she said Joe Kent did not give me [32:51] the the screenshot for the purpose of [32:53] harming Erica Kirk. Are you are you [32:55] backing away from Joe Kent? Is was he [32:56] not your source? [32:58] So now, how does she So she responds [33:00] with this. She says, "Another day, [33:03] another lying rabbi." Again, there she [33:05] calls me a liar. I would like to [33:06] publicly offer to host Rabbi Willicki on [33:08] my show tomorrow. Truth doesn't fear [33:10] lies and you are lying about Joe Kent [33:12] leaking to me and harming Turning Point [33:15] USA and Erica. I never said anything [33:18] about harming Turning Point USA and [33:20] Erica. This is Candace's MMO. She does [33:22] it all the time. I've just pointed out, [33:24] I think, three times where she does this [33:25] where she makes a statement that has a [33:27] number of of added details in it, which [33:29] makes it hard to say that it sounds [33:32] true, but she can she can throw in the [33:35] lie and couch it in other things that [33:37] that make it technically true. Like Joe [33:39] Kent did not give me the messages to [33:40] harm Erica Kirk. No one ever said you [33:42] did. Well, except Laura Loomer. But [33:45] and she does it again. Uh she does it [33:49] again right there in the next line. [33:51] Watch this one. And for extra clarity, [33:54] no. Joe Kent was absolutely not my [33:56] source at the White House. [34:00] What did I ask her? I said, "Was Joe, [34:02] was Joe Kent your source in the [34:03] intelligence community?" Joe Kent didn't [34:06] serve in the White House. He served in [34:07] the office of the director of national [34:08] intelligence. [34:10] No, Joe Kent was absolutely not my [34:12] source at the White House. [34:16] Okay. [34:19] Um, [34:23] there you go. So, so what is this all [34:25] about? Why did I make this video today? [34:26] Not just to recap the story, but because [34:28] of this. This story is not about Candace [34:30] Owens. This story is not about, [34:34] you know, [34:36] who leaked to text messages. Here's what [34:38] the story is about. The story is about a [34:41] guy who was serving as the director of [34:45] counterterrorism [34:50] who [34:51] wanted [34:53] Andrew Kulvit to make text messages [34:56] public. [34:58] And if you ask yourself what possible [35:00] like what justification can you come up [35:01] with? Why did he want those to be made [35:02] public? What would he gain? How would it [35:05] help his investigation? [35:07] How would it help this [35:10] if he believed that there was some [35:11] legitimacy to this as a piece of [35:13] evidence in an investigation? Was he [35:16] knowingly leaking this to Candace Owens [35:19] to fuel the anti-Israel conspiracy [35:21] theory [35:24] to fuel this conspiracy theory? Is that [35:27] what he was doing? Well, let's put this [35:29] behavior wanting the the text messages [35:32] leaked, pressuring Andrew, and Andrew [35:35] basic has subsequently said, by the way, [35:36] subsequent to that video, that Joe Kent [35:39] actually pressured him to release the [35:41] text messages multiple times. And then [35:44] when he didn't get Andrew to comply, [35:47] somehow they make their way to Candace. [35:49] And it could be that they went through a [35:50] go-between, but that doesn't change the [35:52] fact that Joe Kent got them to Candace. [35:54] Doesn't change anything. [35:57] And he goes on Mark Levin's show and [35:59] says that he never gave anything to [36:01] Candace when we know that they only met [36:03] during a time period where they were [36:05] both investigating. Both Candace and Joe [36:07] Kent were investigating this thing. What [36:09] we're supposed to believe they never [36:10] discussed it. They never shared [36:11] anything. [36:13] And Candace was always talking about how [36:15] she how she has sources in the [36:16] intelligence community. [36:18] Looks like it was Joe Kent. The scandal [36:21] here is that this this government [36:23] employee at a very high level [36:26] was deliberately leaking information and [36:29] fuamenting an anti-Israel conspiracy [36:31] theory. Think about the resignation [36:33] letter and think about this behavior [36:35] here. That's the scandal of this story [36:37] of this story. It's really a story about [36:40] Joe Kent. And this should be [36:43] investigated. And by the way, let me [36:44] just add in just in case anyone wants to [36:46] pass it along to her. Candace Owens has [36:50] never produced a lie, but she continues [36:53] to call me a liar. I'd like to follow up [36:56] on that. And no, Candace, I'm not going [36:59] to go on your show. For for months and [37:01] months, you were casting aspersions on [37:03] my character, bringing me up in the [37:05] context of a conspiracy theory and all [37:08] that. And never once during that time [37:11] did you invite me to come on your show [37:12] and share my viewpoint. You only invite [37:14] me to come on your show when I call out [37:18] your lies. So, no, Candace, it doesn't [37:20] work that way.
