Transcript [00:00] J. D. Vance versus Marco Rubio. Yep. Are [00:04] you sick of this topic yet? Well, get [00:06] used to it. It's going to be around for [00:07] a while. I want to talk about it in this [00:09] video because there have been a number [00:10] of statements recently, a number of [00:12] things that have been said in the media [00:13] about this. And we're going to talk [00:15] about this topic in this video from a [00:16] number of different perspectives. We're [00:18] going to talk about uh the recent [00:20] reports uh about a an interaction [00:22] between JD Vance and Prime Minister [00:24] Netanyahu a few weeks ago when Netanyahu [00:27] was in the States. We're going to talk [00:28] about what Trump has been saying about [00:30] Vance and Rubio. We're going to talk [00:32] about the potential impact of the Iran [00:35] war on the Vance Rubio situation and uh [00:39] and a few other goodies along the way. [00:42] Let's start with this headline. JD Vance [00:44] and Benjamin Netanyahu had a no BS talk [00:47] after months of differences. And this [00:49] happened when Netanyahu was in the [00:51] States. And Victor Davis Hansen seems to [00:54] have had some knowledge from behind the [00:57] scenes of what actually took place or [00:59] what precipitated this conversation. He [01:01] seemed to imply that it was didn't seem [01:02] to be talking from conjecture. And I [01:04] want to play you a clip, a couple of [01:06] minutes of Victor Davis Hansen talking [01:08] about JD Vance. Uh he was asked about [01:12] the conversation, the reported tension [01:15] between JD Vance and Prime Minister [01:18] Netanyahu. [01:19] So let's take a look at that. [01:24] Well, that that that's a complicated [01:25] question because Trump came out today [01:27] and said he supports JD as his successor [01:31] as a Republican nominee in 20128. The [01:34] reason he did that was [01:37] JD was starting to be associated with [01:40] these negotiations [01:42] and not the kinetic part under Hexet and [01:45] the negotiations hadn't worked and he [01:48] had said we were dealing with the [01:49] moderates. There are no moderates in [01:51] Iran. There's people who pose as [01:53] moderates, but even if they wanted to be [01:55] moderate, they'd be murdered. It's run [01:58] by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp. [02:01] Everybody knows that. And a theocracy. [02:04] And then he said that Israel couldn't [02:06] kill its way out. That sounds like [02:08] Israel wanted to kill people. They [02:10] didn't want to kill people. If Husbalah [02:13] had stopped the missiles tomorrow, they [02:14] wouldn't have ever gone into Lebanon. So [02:17] he there was an impression that on the [02:20] international stage he wasn't um as [02:23] experienced let's say as Rubio and Rubio [02:25] stock was starting to come up and if [02:28] that continued [02:30] uh there might be a destructive race in [02:32] 2028. So what Trump did was [02:36] he said to JD [02:39] pretty much I will back you but you've [02:41] got to stop the stuff about Netanyahu. [02:45] So he had he made Netanyahu and there [02:48] was supposedly [02:50] an anime on Laura Ingram's interview. He [02:53] denied there was a bad but the problem [02:56] is this that [02:59] Tucker's son worked for a JD and he [03:03] whether it's fair or not is associated [03:06] with that wing of the MAGA movement. the [03:09] Tucker Carlson, the Candace Owens, the [03:11] Steve Bannons, [03:13] the [03:15] Joe Kid, is that his name? Yeah, all of [03:19] those guys. And maybe Megan Kelly, I [03:22] don't know, but and Marjorie Taylor [03:25] Green and Thomas Massie. And the problem [03:28] with that, if he is to be associated [03:30] with them, they say some pretty crazy [03:32] things about Israel and the Jews. And [03:35] you know when Tom Mass Thomas Masses had [03:37] lost because of the decision was made in [03:40] Israel you know [03:43] and so there's a lot of where and [03:46] there's two problems with that. Trump's [03:49] grandchildren are Jewish and his [03:51] daughter has converted to Judaism [03:54] and more importantly there's a lot of uh [03:57] powerful Jews and donors who are sick of [04:01] the democratic anti-semitism. So the [04:03] Republican party is trying to attract [04:05] them. But [04:07] already you see not just among Jews but [04:09] among other people are worried that JD [04:12] seems to be singling out Israel for [04:14] criticism that's not applicable to other [04:16] more deserving targets. [04:19] >> All right, Victor, [04:24] >> let's get rid of that. Okay, so that's [04:27] interesting. He said there that uh Trump [04:29] basically told JD you got to knock it [04:31] off with the anti-Israel anti- you know [04:33] the anti-Israel conspiracy theories or [04:35] leveling criticisms that are unfounded. [04:37] There are found look not criticisms of [04:40] Israel are fine. Israelis criticize [04:42] Israel a lot. It's when there's [04:44] unfounded criticisms saying things like [04:46] JD Vance has said and I've talked about [04:48] this in some other videos about JD Vance [04:50] some of the unfair criticisms he's [04:52] leveled at Israel. But look at what [04:54] Victor Davis Hansen says here that Trump [04:56] actually wants Vance. And he did [04:59] recently reportedly say that that he [05:01] wants Vance, but he needs him to change [05:03] his tone about Jews and about Israel [05:06] because there's a lot of people as much [05:08] as you know Vance is confident maybe [05:12] that the younger part of the MAGA [05:13] movement is more in that direction, more [05:15] isolationist, more anti-Israel, that [05:17] could be. That could be. But still a lot [05:21] of voters, [05:23] the bulk of the voters really are uh are [05:26] in the pro-Israel camp in the Republican [05:27] party and you know there's a lot of [05:31] people scratching their heads about JD [05:32] Vance lately and Trump wants to correct [05:34] that. So that's that's what Victor Davis [05:37] Hansen said that that was about. Now [05:38] before we go on with anything else, I [05:40] want to talk about the webinar on [05:41] Sunday. We got to we got to we got to [05:43] plug the webinar. If you're not [05:44] registered, please register for this. 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Should [06:38] run about an hour to an hour and a half, [06:40] probably about an hour and a half in [06:42] total. And you can register by going to [06:44] the link in the description of this [06:46] video or go to israel365.com/momdani [06:49] or scan the QR code that is on your [06:52] screen. You don't want to miss it this [06:54] coming Sunday. All right, let's get rid [06:56] of all that. Uh, so that's so that was [06:59] Victor Davis Hansen's take. I want to [07:01] show you uh [07:04] uh something that was written in the [07:06] Washington Post just about a week ago. [07:10] Okay, so [07:12] we have this story here. Trump privately [07:14] tells donors to back Vance while [07:17] publicly keeping 2028 open. Meaning [07:20] publicly Trump is not endorsing anyone [07:23] but privately tells donors. What does it [07:25] say here? President Donald Trump [07:26] recently told donors in private that he [07:28] wants to see his vice president win the [07:30] 2028 presidential election, a sign that [07:32] he is open to publicly backing JD Vance, [07:34] even as some advisers caution that Trump [07:36] has yet to settle firmly on a successor. [07:39] Quote, "At the end of the day, we need [07:41] to elect JD." Trump said during an Oval [07:43] Office meeting with donors roughly two [07:45] weeks ago, according to two people with [07:48] knowledge of the comments who spoke on [07:49] the condition of anonymity because they [07:51] were not authorized to discuss the [07:53] matter. Even as Trump boyed his voice [07:55] vice president to donors in the Oval [07:57] Office, though he was still peppering [08:00] people around him with questions about [08:02] Vance versus Rubio. One White House [08:04] official said the president quizzed [08:06] staff about the two men on a Marine One [08:09] ride last month. An adviser to the [08:11] president with direct knowledge of [08:12] Trump's comment to the donors said that [08:15] Trump has privately resolved that Vance [08:17] will be the heir to the GOP, but that it [08:20] is quote too early to determine when [08:22] Vance will announce his candidacy or [08:24] when Trump will publicly endorse him. [08:27] Six other Trump world advisers and [08:29] allies, however, cautioned that they [08:31] aren't convinced the president has [08:34] settled on Vance, noting that Trump [08:36] tells different things to different [08:37] people and could still change his mind [08:39] about an endorsement for 2028. Trump [08:42] aids widely agree that the president [08:43] will delay endorsing to avoid appearing [08:46] to be a lame duck. That's an interesting [08:48] factor. The at whatever point Trump [08:51] endorses someone who's running for [08:52] president, again, he he appears to be [08:54] more of a lame duck. That's a good [08:56] point. Never thought of that. Quote, [08:57] "Anyone assuming it's a lock is just [08:59] getting way ahead of themselves or just [09:01] doesn't know the president very well," [09:03] said an official with knowledge of [09:05] Trump's recent Vance Rubio poll on [09:07] Marine One [09:09] during the 2024 running mate contest. [09:12] And now Rubio had the backing of most [09:15] pre-Trump [09:17] GOP donors. Pre-Trump GOP donors. Vance [09:21] is more aligned with the younger MAGA [09:23] coalition that returned Trump to power [09:24] in 2024, but is now at risk of fraying. [09:28] He has also spent his vice presidency [09:30] developing relationships with party [09:32] benefactors to fund raise for the GOP. [09:34] And you think back to what Victor Davis [09:35] Hansen said that Vance is very much seen [09:38] as aligned with a piece of the GOP that [09:40] is not really a traditional part of the [09:42] GOP. This Tucker Carlson, Thomas Massie, [09:45] Marjgerie Taylor Green faction that are [09:47] now breaking off and starting their own [09:48] party. That doesn't that's a bad look [09:50] for Vance. Does he actually break with [09:52] them publicly or not? Interesting [09:54] question. Quote, "Vance has done a lot [09:56] of political work in the last year and a [09:58] half," said the Trump adviser with [10:00] knowledge of his recent comment to [10:02] donors, meaning Vance is trying to work [10:04] more to court the donor class. Very [10:07] smart. Lately, Vance impressed Trump by [10:09] negotiating a June ceasefire deal with [10:11] Iran, leading a task force to crack down [10:14] on fraud and federal benefits, and [10:17] parrying a range of media interviews for [10:19] his book tour in June. The adviser said [10:21] even though the ceasefire deal collapsed [10:23] in July, Vance advisers believe that his [10:26] role in the talks was still a political [10:28] win. The agreement he negotiated was [10:31] popular, whereas voters widely [10:33] disapprove of Trump's handling of the [10:35] war. Meaning, that's an interesting [10:36] point. and there's some truth to it. I'm [10:38] not a big fan of the Washington Post. [10:40] They're saying that even though theou [10:42] that Vance was the was the face of [10:45] collapsed, theou was actually popular. [10:48] People wanted some sort of agreement. [10:50] They don't want the war to be on. So [10:53] that's still it might still have been a [10:56] political win for Vance. Interesting. [10:58] Rubio, by contrast, has served in [11:01] multiple key administration roles, none [11:03] of which lend themselves to politics. [11:05] Legally and logistically, a secretary of [11:08] state or a national security adviser, a [11:10] role Rubio also occupies, would not be [11:13] able to run for president while serving. [11:16] Rubio does not have a campaign in [11:18] waiting or a political operation ready [11:19] to assemble. The Trump adviser said that [11:21] Trump still would like to see Rubio on a [11:24] joint ticket with Vance and the [11:26] president regularly praises Rubio, but [11:28] that it is unclear whether Rubio would [11:30] actually want the role of Vance's [11:32] running mate. A Rubio spokesman declined [11:35] to comment. Let's remember what what a [11:38] young politician [11:40] Vance actually is. Okay. He served all [11:43] of one and a half years [11:46] barely in the Senate before being named [11:50] uh VP candidate, which kind of ended his [11:53] Senate term. He was just then [11:54] campaigning as VP as a running mate to [11:56] Trump. That's his whole political [11:59] career. [12:00] So, I mean, he could end up being the [12:02] Republican Obama, you know, like a [12:04] really a political novice. I'll get into [12:06] that at the end of this video. I have [12:07] some other comments to say. And then we [12:09] have this uh from a little more than a [12:11] week ago. Rubio leads Vance by 30 Rubio [12:14] leads Vance by 36 points in new 2028 GOP [12:18] struple. This isn't the whole GOP. It's [12:19] just it's an event. It's anecdotal. [12:22] Secretary of State Marco Rubio captured [12:24] a strong majority of conservatives [12:25] participating in a 2028 GOP presidential [12:28] straw poll over the weekend, finishing [12:31] 36 points ahead of Vice President Vance. [12:34] The survey of attendees at the Western [12:36] Conservative Summit in Colorado found [12:38] that 57% of the 500 plus respondents [12:41] backed Rubio who led a group of 27 [12:44] Republican and Democratic candidates. [12:46] Vance in second received support from [12:48] 21% of the attendees. This must I bet [12:50] this was an older crowd. I'm just [12:52] saying. Former Vice President Mike [12:55] Pence, Libertarian Representative Thomas [12:57] Massie, and Florida Governor Ronda [12:59] Santis rounded out the top five. [13:01] Regarding whom attendees approved of [13:04] heading into 2028, just three [13:06] Republicans received support from a [13:08] majority. Rudio Rubio at 85%, Vance at [13:12] 71%, and Desandis at 55%. Trump also [13:16] floated a Vance Rubio ticket in June. [13:19] The president said a combination of [13:21] Vance, a populist, and Rubio, who has [13:23] traditional conservative credentials, [13:24] would be a great team. Quote, "I don't [13:27] know how you'd beat them if they're [13:28] together." He told Miranda Divine, the [13:31] reporter from the New York Post on an [13:32] episode of the New York Post's Pod Force [13:35] One. So, we know where Trump is. And [13:38] this is uh and we see that you know the [13:39] the the GOP activists, the GOP donors, [13:42] not just the donors, but the activists [13:44] who the ones who skew older for sure are [13:48] definitely more in the Rubio camp. And [13:50] the New York Times uh a few weeks ago, [13:53] end of July, ran an an opinion uh piece [13:56] by their columnist Ross Dowat. I'm not [13:58] going to read the whole thing. I'm just [13:59] going to get to what he says at the end [14:00] because I found it interesting. And this [14:02] is where we pivot to talking about the [14:03] impact of the Iran war. We already [14:05] alluded to it um in the in the piece in [14:07] the Washington Post about how you know [14:09] how theou how Vance doing the doing the [14:13] negotiation the deal with Iran affects [14:15] his candidacy. [14:17] But uh you know look at this. This is a [14:18] very interesting passage in this opinion [14:20] piece. First even among growing doubts [14:23] about the conflict meaning with Iran [14:25] most of the Republican base doesn't want [14:27] to be told that the president made a [14:28] terrible mistake going to war in the [14:30] first place. And a vice president can't [14:32] campaign that way regardless. Meaning [14:33] Vance is the vice president. He can't go [14:35] out and campaign [14:37] that Trump made a mistake. And and by [14:40] the way, this brings up a whole other [14:42] issue, which is the role that Trump is [14:44] going to play in the campaign because [14:46] he's not going to shut up. Trump is not [14:48] a conventional man. Most presidents when [14:51] they're done, they like vanish from [14:53] public life for a while. Obama didn't, [14:55] but he but he mostly did. You don't see [14:58] him all the time. We can expect Trump to [15:00] still be pretty vocal. He's going to be [15:02] he'll be talking about the policies of [15:04] the next president non-stop. We could I [15:06] mean it's hard to imagine he won't and [15:09] certainly in this campaign. He's still [15:10] going to be president during the [15:12] campaign. [15:13] He's going to be asked about it all the [15:14] time. He's going to open his mouth. [15:18] I cannot see how Vance can be [15:20] criticizing Trump in that campaign. [15:23] It's not going to work. Right. And since [15:26] Vance can't campaign that way because he [15:28] has to defend his boss, his position [15:30] won't be fully satisfying to the [15:32] anti-war right either, whether embodied [15:35] by Tucker Carlson or Joe Rogan. Meaning [15:37] that group won't be able to get behind [15:40] Vance if Vance is praising Trump. And [15:43] Vance is going to have a hard time going [15:44] against Trump even though everyone knew [15:46] that he wasn't so for the Iran war. It's [15:48] going to be very tricky to watch. I I [15:50] thought this was a very interesting [15:52] point. This dilemma could have been [15:55] resolved by advanced peace deal, letting [15:58] the VP credit Trump with his supposed [16:00] victory while earning his own credit for [16:03] a dealmaking from those who who see [16:05] things clearly. But obviously the [16:07] efforts to end the war have not [16:08] succeeded yet. And the June memorandum [16:11] of understanding between the United [16:12] States and Iran, mainly negotiated by [16:14] Vance, is currently bobbing. This is a [16:16] few weeks ago. It's it's done. Bullets [16:18] strafed in the street of Hormuz. So you [16:20] could argue that he's not trapped betw [16:22] twixed in between. That he's now trapped [16:24] betw twixed in between. A scapegoat for [16:26] the hawks who think the administration [16:28] hasn't been tough enough but not [16:30] successful enough diplomatically to [16:32] satisfy conservatives looking for a [16:34] peacemaker. But the challenge for the [16:36] anti-vance voices is that it's not [16:38] enough to have a story where the Iran [16:40] war was create where where the Iran war [16:42] has created various political problems [16:45] for him. You need a story where he is so [16:47] weakened that Trump himself decides to [16:49] favor Rubio as a successor because [16:52] there's no way that the Secretary of [16:53] State campaigns against the vice [16:55] president without Trump's tacit [16:57] blessing. Good point. Such a story was [17:00] imaginable at the start of the war if it [17:02] had gone well. [17:04] Vance's opposition had looked foolish [17:06] and and Rubio had then positioned [17:08] himself as the campaign as the champion [17:10] of a successful hawkish foreign policy. [17:12] You could have imagined then Rubio [17:14] rising to the top, Trump advance and and [17:16] Trump endorsing him. But from where we [17:18] are right now, the position of [17:20] difficulty and stalemate, there's no [17:22] evidence that Trump regards Vance more [17:24] skeptically because of his initial [17:26] opposition to the war. Indeed, there's [17:28] reporting that the president has warmed [17:30] to the vice president over the past few [17:32] months. And some of albeit with Vance's [17:36] weight loss giving given partial credit [17:38] for the shift. And some of Vance's most [17:40] controversy courting comments on the [17:42] war, his critiques of Israel's posture, [17:45] especially almost certainly reflect the [17:48] president's own frustrations, maybe [17:49] somewhat. So, how would you get from [17:51] here to a world where Rubio becomes the [17:53] heir apparent? If the war, meaning [17:56] what's the pathway where Rubio really [17:59] becomes the guy? That's that's an [18:01] interesting question. Here's what he [18:02] suggests. If the war grinds on in [18:05] stalemate and ends an embarrassment for [18:07] America, I cannot imagine a successful [18:10] Republican primary campaign being waged [18:12] on the premise that JD Vance is too [18:15] dovish or anti-interventionist. [18:17] If Trump ramps up the hostilities and [18:20] war becomes an even big and the war [18:21] becomes an even bigger debacle, that's [18:23] bad for all his wouldbe heirs, but [18:26] hardly a boon for the dump Vance [18:29] movement, which leaves only a scenario [18:32] where Trump sharply escalates, his vice [18:35] president opposes the escalation while [18:37] the Secretary of State champions it, and [18:40] the Iranian regime collapses and gas [18:42] prices with it, leaving Trump with Rubio [18:45] to thank for victory and Vance to blame [18:48] to blame for standing in the way. That's [18:51] the future where I might bet on Rubio [18:52] for 2028, but it's also not a future I [18:55] would bet on happening. That's the fairy [18:57] tale that we tell ourselves that we hope [18:58] will happen. Maybe it's not a fairy [19:00] tale. Maybe it will happen. But he he [19:02] raises in this article, he does a great [19:04] job of laying out the dilemmas that are [19:08] in there in in the in what role the how [19:11] the Iran war is going to turn out [19:14] impacts this whole question of Vance [19:16] versus Rubio. It's absolutely [19:17] fascinating and he brings up some [19:19] interesting points. We think of Vance as [19:21] the anti-Iran camp, but he won't be able [19:23] to campaign on I was opposed to what [19:26] Trump did. He's going to have a very [19:28] hard time campaigning on that with Trump [19:30] in the off in in the Oval Office during [19:33] the campaign and Trump being Trump and [19:36] needing that endorsement. It's going to [19:38] be very very interesting to watch that. [19:42] And finally, I'll leave you uh you know, [19:44] we'll play this before I share my final [19:46] thoughts. And this is a clip uh that's [19:48] making the rounds of Ben Shapiro on the [19:50] Patrick Bed David the PBD podcast. And [19:54] this was uh this was I think yesterday. [19:56] And this is a very short clip, just [19:58] under two minutes. Here we go. [20:03] >> You buy any of those stories that Rubio [20:04] may not even run? [20:05] >> Yes. [20:06] >> You believe that? [20:06] >> Yes. [20:07] >> Why do you believe that? Um because I [20:08] think that that the secretary of state [20:10] uh again he he may well run but I I [20:12] think it is unlikely in my own personal [20:14] perspective because if you look at his [20:15] political history he's a pretty [20:16] riskaverse politician. So if you're if [20:18] you're Marco and you're looking at sort [20:20] of the gaming out what the next few [20:22] years look like for you here are your [20:23] choices. You run against JD, you lose, [20:26] you're done. You run against JD, you [20:28] win. It's a rough election cycle anyway [20:30] because the president's riding in the [20:32] 30s and the country is in the mood for [20:34] quote unquote something new. And you [20:35] lose, you're done. you don't run, JD may [20:40] pick you as his VP candidate. JD loses, [20:42] you're next. JD does not pick you and JD [20:45] loses, you're also next. So, if you're [20:48] sort of doing a prisoner's dilemma here, [20:49] you know, a game theory prisoners [20:51] dilemma, [20:52] >> I think that the prisoners dilemma [20:53] suggests that that Rubio will probably [20:54] not run out of risk aversion because [20:57] >> that would be a shame if that happens. [20:58] >> I mean, I agree. I would like to see an [20:59] open and and robust debate on the stage [21:02] between all these various positions [21:04] where people are actually held to [21:05] account for their positions because I [21:06] prefer clarity. [21:07] Cali's got Dantis third. Who do they [21:09] have next? Is there anybody else after [21:11] Dantis? [21:11] >> Dan's all the way down at 4.6, right? [21:13] 4.6. And [21:14] >> Donald Trump is not running. Um, [21:15] >> three and a half, [21:17] >> right? [21:18] >> So, [21:18] >> and then and then back to Trump who [21:20] constitutionally cannot run. [21:21] >> He's so funny. He says, "I'm here to [21:22] announce my [laughter] [21:25] >> two weeks ago." He's so funny. So, okay. [21:28] So, Dantis, no chance. You think this is [21:31] a Rubio JD thing? And [21:33] >> listen, a lot can happen. It's it's [21:36] still early. Um but again, if if I were [21:38] going to put my money on it, if I were [21:38] in the couch markets, I put my money on [21:40] Vans. [music] [21:46] >> Yeah. So, Ben Shapiro there brings up a [21:49] very very interesting argument [21:52] um very interesting argument for why [21:56] Marco Rubio won't run. He says it's like [21:59] a it's a lose-lose. [22:02] Um he sees this as a very difficult [22:04] election cycle for the Republicans. [22:07] Maybe yes, maybe no. Depends. I think [22:10] some of it depends on whether the Save [22:11] America Act gets passed [22:14] because [22:16] my personal belief is that the Democrats [22:19] cannot win if the Save America Act gets [22:21] passed. Uh and if there's if you know [22:25] voter ID is is uh is required everywhere [22:30] in America. Kamala Harris only won [22:32] states as far as I know. She only won [22:35] states where voter ID was not a [22:36] requirement. [22:38] Um, [22:40] so I don't know. I don't know if this I [22:42] don't know if if Ben's analysis is [22:43] correct that it's going to be such a [22:44] tough election cycle that that the [22:46] likelihood is that the Republican [22:48] candidate loses because that's one of [22:49] the premises of what he was arguing. But [22:52] it's a very interesting argument he [22:53] makes there. You know, Marco Rubio is [22:55] still young. So is JD Vance, but Marco [22:56] Rubio is still young. Why should he, you [22:59] know, why should he jump the gun at this [23:00] point? He's doing well as Secretary of [23:02] State. Wait it out. He, you know, does [23:07] he want to be the vice president to JD [23:09] Vance, the vice presidential candidate, [23:10] and then Vance loses? Okay, he can still [23:13] run. You You can be a vice presidential [23:15] candidate and later run for president, [23:16] especially with with Rubio's resume. But [23:19] if he runs against Vance in the primary [23:20] and loses, that's a disaster. [23:23] um running against Vance in the primary [23:26] now versus running against whoever will [23:29] come after Vance in a primary later. [23:35] He's might be better off waiting. [23:37] Interesting. Interesting. But is this is [23:40] this calculation correct? I don't know. [23:42] I don't know. I'll tell you what I think [23:43] about JD Vance. I've said it in other [23:44] interviews. I might have said it on my [23:46] channel already and I I alluded to it [23:48] earlier about his his uh his political [23:53] inexperience. [23:55] But there's something else which is [23:56] about our misunderstanding of personal [23:59] of how much personality plays a role. [24:03] You see, even if JD Vance and or Marco [24:06] Rubio are totally aligned with Trump on [24:08] policy, [24:11] you know, Ronald Reagan fa famously, you [24:14] know, championed the expression uh that [24:16] personnel is policy. But let me go a [24:18] little further. Personality is policy. [24:22] without Trump's brash personality, [24:24] without his in his his sense that he [24:28] knows better than everybody. He could [24:29] have all the experts in the world in the [24:31] room and he knows better than them, [24:32] which seems to be sometimes like an [24:35] insane and negative personality trait is [24:38] also his best trait simultaneously. It's [24:41] both his worst trait and his best trait. [24:42] I think that's true of a lot of our of [24:44] all of us that our our worst traits are [24:46] often just the the a different [24:48] application of our best traits [24:51] and and Trump [24:54] is he spent his whole life being an [24:57] entrepreneur making deals thinking out [24:59] of the box entrepreneurs tend to think [25:01] out of the box and take risks and being [25:04] very confident about that for years and [25:05] years decades and decades and decades [25:07] having all that success and that's what [25:09] gives him the confidence and the [25:10] brashness to go in there and do things [25:12] like move the embassy to Jerusalem [25:15] even though all the experts told him it [25:17] would be a disaster and it wasn't and [25:19] making these masses and the things that [25:21] he's you know all the initiatives also [25:22] on the on in foreign policy and domestic [25:24] policy the the big changes that Trump [25:26] makes all come from that personality [25:30] look at the resume of JD Vance the [25:33] resume is as far as I know right he went [25:35] to Yale like he served in the in the [25:36] Marines he went to uh Yale law school uh [25:40] he had a he worked he worked for Peter [25:42] Teal. U he wrote a book, [25:46] a bestselling novel, a memoir, and then [25:50] he runs for Senate. He was like running [25:53] third in that campaign. Then Trump [25:54] endorsed him and he ended up winning. [25:58] My point being that he hasn't spent a [26:02] career building anything. He didn't even [26:05] serve in he didn't he didn't run many [26:07] campaigns and take other risks. He [26:10] didn't have people employed by him. He [26:12] didn't build a business. Not talking [26:14] about it's not again you have presidents [26:16] who are not businessmen who are very [26:17] good presidents but he didn't I I don't [26:20] see someone who has the trace when we [26:23] think about comparison to Trump. Vance [26:25] is a very different person person. In [26:27] fact, to me, he's the perfect profile of [26:30] someone who, if he gets elected [26:32] president, he's very articulate and he [26:34] definitely has ideas and and and and [26:36] policy ideas and things he believes in, [26:39] but he's the kind of person who will [26:41] trust his adviserss. He'll trust the [26:44] experts that he puts around him and [26:47] he'll be the frontman for sure. But I [26:50] think it's actually very different from [26:52] President Trump [26:54] who is such an independent thinker that [26:56] even with all these, you know, he has [26:58] experts in front of him, but he's really [26:59] the one who's being decisive. People who [27:01] don't necessarily trust their own [27:03] knowledge and their own experience will [27:06] defer to experts. That's that tends to [27:08] be what they do. It's the wise thing to [27:10] do. And that's why I, you know, through [27:13] no fault of JD's, I just don't think [27:15] that he's someone that I would want in [27:18] that position. [27:19] That's my thought about him and nothing [27:22] to do with the Israel stuff and all [27:23] that. I think there's, you know, there's [27:24] other issues there. And in the end of [27:26] the day, you know, the Pentagon has a [27:28] lot to say about USIsrael relations and [27:30] so does the Senate and and and the [27:32] Congress. And I I don't think I don't I [27:35] don't want to make too much of JD's [27:36] comments. I have talked about them in [27:38] the past. I'm not happy with them. I [27:40] think their lack of judgment. Uh but but [27:43] to me the biggest issue with JD Vance [27:45] potentially being vice being president [27:46] is just the um [27:50] you know the lack of of of political [27:53] maturity. Uh that is just again not his [27:56] own fault. It's just you know what if [27:58] you look at the career trajectory that's [28:00] he's not someone I would feel [28:01] comfortable with as president of the [28:03] United States. That's my thoughts. All [28:05] right. Thanks for watching and uh we'll [28:08] do some more of these tomorrow. God [28:09] bless.
