Transcript [00:00] Sovereignty in Judea and Samaria is a [00:02] pipe dream. That's what some people [00:04] think, but that's not what I think. I [00:06] think it's totally doable. I think we [00:08] can move ahead and actually control our [00:11] ancestral homeland. I made the case to [00:14] Jonathan Shanzer, who is the executive [00:16] director at FDD, Federation for Defense [00:19] of Democracies, a Washington DC think [00:22] tank, very influential. He's a great [00:24] intellectual. And we had a serious talk [00:26] about how we could actually make [00:29] policies of sovereignty for Judea and [00:31] Samaria, for a stronger land of Israel, [00:33] for Gaza as well. We didn't get into the [00:35] Gaza issue as much, but Judeian Samaria, [00:37] the ancestral homeland, that's where I [00:38] live. That's what I represent. So-called [00:40] settlers are in the right. That's my [00:43] opinion, and I made the case to Jonathan [00:45] Chanzer. Let's check it out. [00:47] >> Welcome to the FTD Morning Brief. Isai [00:49] Fleer. [00:50] >> Howdy. Nice to see you. Nice to meet [00:52] you, Jonathan. as they say in the holy [00:54] land. Howdy. All right. [00:55] >> In the wild west bank. In the wild. [00:56] >> In the wild west bank. All right. Let's [00:58] start with why is it so important to the [01:02] Jewish people? This is just basic [01:03] history. Some say it is the second most [01:05] important city in Judaism. What say you? [01:09] >> Yeah. Uh religiously speaking, it's the [01:12] most second most important city. Of [01:13] course, Jerusalem is number one. Uh but [01:16] it is number one in other ways. It's the [01:18] first purchase of the Jewish people in [01:20] the land of Israel. Abraham, according [01:22] to the story of the book of Genesis, [01:24] came to Hebron, purchased a plot of land [01:26] that was supposed to be a burial place [01:28] for his beloved wife Sarah. Later on, it [01:30] became a mausoleum for Abraham and [01:33] Sarah. Isaac, Rebecca, Jacob, and Leia. [01:35] Like they say in Virginia, Virginia is [01:37] for lovers. Hebron is for lovers. It's [01:39] about mamas and papas. Uh, King David [01:42] ruled there first before he moved to [01:45] Jerusalem. He was king in Hebron for [01:47] seven years. Uh and that's because he [01:49] was from the tribe of Judah. He is the [01:52] capital of the tribe of Judah. Then he [01:54] moves to you know what people call uh uh [01:57] Jerusalem DC, Jerusalem David's capital. [01:59] And he just uh has a he wants to rule [02:02] all the tribes. So he wants to move away [02:04] from you know just the Judeian capital. [02:06] But Hebron remains important throughout [02:08] all of Jewish history after that. And [02:10] it's really the longest [02:13] uh uh Jewish habitation in perpetuity. [02:17] So, it's in a very important spot. And [02:19] finally, it houses the tomb of the [02:22] patriarchs and matriarchs. 2,000 years [02:23] ago, King Herod built this mammoth [02:26] structure, what Dr. Noon calls the [02:29] shrine of Genesis, and it is this giant [02:31] structure, a beautiful structure kept to [02:33] this very day. All the other Herod [02:35] Herodian structures are ruins. This one [02:37] stands uh as an eternal monolith for the [02:41] forefathers and mothers who founded this [02:43] nation. So Hebron's very important [02:44] >> and and it happens to look just like [02:47] something else that we've been to uh [02:49] most of us, right? Looks just like the [02:51] temple in Jerusalem. That's kind of an [02:54] important thing as well, right? Almost a [02:56] mirror image, if you will. [02:58] >> Well, what we have left from the temple [02:59] in Jerusalem is the Western Wall. [03:01] Actually, we have other walls as well. [03:02] It's a little misnomer. The southern [03:04] wall, all the other walls are still [03:06] extend, but we know the Western Wall is [03:08] very famous. But if you look at the [03:09] western world, it's got this masonry [03:11] around it, these frames. And that too is [03:13] what we have in Hebrron. The difference [03:14] is it's it's miraculous and historical [03:17] is that the building is extant. It has [03:19] other layers that were added onto by the [03:22] Byzantines and Muslims and crusaders and [03:25] Mluks and and the Turks, the Ottoman [03:27] Turks. But the original structure still [03:29] stands. And it is really one of the [03:32] state of Israel's most uh iconic [03:35] buildings. I I I sometimes tried the [03:38] state of Israel for not using it enough [03:40] as an iconic building. And Ariel Chiron [03:42] at the end of his life gave an interview [03:43] to Ari Shaveid and he said, you know, I [03:45] didn't stress it enough because this is [03:47] the forefathers and mothers. It's an [03:48] iconic building. Instead, I overfocused [03:50] on security. I should have focused more [03:52] on identity. Okay. Um, good background. [03:55] Um, I want to ask you now just we went [03:58] way past tense. Now we're going current [04:01] events. What about this recent operation [04:03] by the IDF and Israeli security forces? [04:05] just I guess two or two days ago, [04:07] yesterday in Hebron, what was the [04:09] perspective from the Jewish community? [04:11] Big deal? Not a big deal? [04:13] >> Let me let me go to just a tad more [04:15] background so people can understand what [04:17] we're talking about. Uh Judea and [04:18] Samaria, it's the areas north of [04:20] Jerusalem, south of Jerusalem. It's a [04:22] mountain ridge area. Uh and uh the [04:25] Jewish people lost control of that land [04:27] in 1948. It was it was supposed to be [04:29] Israeli, supposed to be Jewish, but it [04:31] was lost to Jordan. Uh Jordan attacked. [04:34] We did gain uh independence in 1948 but [04:38] lost the ancestral heartland. And so in [04:42] 1967 that ancestral heartland was either [04:44] the way we see it liberated or how some [04:46] other people say occupied. And so we [04:49] think of it as liberated. People like [04:51] myself moved down after 1967 [04:54] uh into these areas and tried to settle [04:57] it or really resettle it. Um and so to [05:01] the government of Israel understood the [05:02] importance of Hebrron because of its [05:04] historical significance and they wanted [05:06] to write the wrong of the 1929 riots. [05:09] This is pre-state in which uh uh 67 Jews [05:12] were murdered and this ancient community [05:14] was destroyed by uh the the kind of [05:16] original jihad of Hajamin El Husseini. [05:18] So um today we have a strong Jewish [05:21] community in Hebrron. About a thousand [05:23] people live in Hebrron and about 9,000 [05:25] in our sister city Kirat Arba. 10,000 [05:28] Jews living amongst no less than 250,000 [05:31] Arabs. Okay. Now, Hebrron happens to be [05:34] a very religious city. And here's the [05:36] here's the weird stuff of the Middle [05:38] East. On the one hand, it's a city of [05:40] tremendous [05:42] um material output. Meaning to say, it's [05:45] a city of textiles and shoes and [05:49] mattresses and plastic wear. All this [05:51] stuff is actually exported into Israel. [05:53] Okay? So, they have a lot of business [05:55] with Israel. That's on the one hand. On [05:57] the other hand, it's a very religious [05:58] town and it doesn't have any bars or [06:01] anything like that. No movie theaters. [06:02] It's a very religious town and uh uh [06:05] consequently it also has a very strong [06:06] kamas and general jihadist presence. So [06:10] therefore the IDF has to go in from time [06:12] to time like they do in Janine or or in [06:15] so so-called nabis what we call and in [06:18] Hebron they have to go in and this is to [06:20] the south of Jerusalem. They have to go [06:21] in and get rid of the tons of, and you [06:23] mentioned it, tons of illegal arms and [06:26] jihadist planning against the Jews. The [06:28] Palestinian Authority that controls [06:29] Hebrron uh is not friendly towards [06:32] Israel, educates, brainwashes its its [06:34] children towards uh the destruction of [06:36] the state of Israel and the murder of [06:37] Jewish people. Uh and from time to time, [06:40] the IDF gets in there and and cleans [06:42] house or as they say here in the Middle [06:44] East, ms the lawn. Ms the lawn. [06:47] >> And so that's what that's what happened [06:49] the other day. It was much more than [06:51] that, right? But it is part of a broader [06:53] >> operation that's happening. I mean, [06:55] really since before October 7th, there [06:58] have been ongoing operations in the West [07:00] Bank, concerns about Judea and Samaria [07:02] and the proliferation of weapons and the [07:04] like. Um, and this is just one more of [07:07] those, right? I mean, that's essentially [07:09] how we understand it. But here's I guess [07:12] the the I think the bigger question for [07:14] you. There's high tension right now, [07:17] right? West Bank, Judan Samaria. It's in [07:20] the news at this moment, not because of [07:22] this Hebrron operation, but because the [07:24] Israeli government is talking about [07:26] annexing territory again. So, I guess my [07:28] question is what's happening here? Why [07:30] is it back in the news? [07:31] >> Well, one piece of news that just [07:33] happened in the last 24 hours is that uh [07:37] the Jewish community of Hebrron and one [07:39] of our organizations called Ari was able [07:41] to purchase five Arab houses in one of [07:44] the Hebrron neighborhoods. Five Arab [07:46] houses at once. It's like a neighborhood [07:49] and and the Jews came in and they they [07:51] settled it and the police was there. And [07:52] by the way, the Arabs didn't have a big [07:54] reaction at all. They were like, "Okay, [07:56] in fact, in fact, we have a lot of Arabs [07:57] who are interested in selling today more [07:59] than ever before." Um, [08:02] what was your question exactly? How does [08:03] this operation affect us? [08:05] >> Well, no, let's move on from the [08:06] operation because I mean I think we can [08:08] all [08:08] >> What's the future? [08:10] >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean like there's I [08:11] every time you open up one of the [08:13] websites, you know, Times of Israel, [08:15] Jerusalem Post, it's like, you know, and [08:16] then you see these comments from like [08:18] the Palestinian Authority or from the [08:20] Arab League or from the Saudis and [08:22] they're like, "We condemn Israel for its [08:24] recent statement about West Bank. Why is [08:27] this happening? Why now? What's going [08:29] on?" In the '9s, the state of Israel [08:33] went to a process called the Oslo [08:34] Accords and within that the Hebrron [08:36] Accords, basically trying to give away [08:38] parts of Judea and Samaria to a [08:41] different sovereign, a different [08:43] governing system, and that was the [08:45] creation of the Palestinian Authority. [08:47] Uh, now this Palestinian Authority, we [08:49] were against it. People like myself and [08:50] the people that I represent today, uh, [08:53] were against that whole process. We [08:55] thought we should control our land and [08:57] yes, there are minorities there. Big [08:59] deal. we can govern them. We can give [09:00] them medical. We can give them the [09:02] roads. We can give them decencies and we [09:04] could find the jihadist and get rid of [09:05] them and we could be the controllers of [09:07] our own land. Uh but the government went [09:09] towards this process of the Oslo [09:10] Accords. Now after the basically failure [09:13] of the Oslo Accords, there is various [09:16] efforts to walk back that policy. [09:18] Various kinds of efforts. One effort is [09:20] a more civilian effort to purchase land [09:22] from the Arabs to move in to settle and [09:25] to get more people to live here. Now [09:27] that we have also in our government more [09:30] so-called right-wing elements, if it's [09:33] if it's uh if it's Minister of Finance [09:35] Smutric, if it's Minister of National [09:37] Security Ben, and others in the LIKU as [09:39] well, many others, uh we're trying to in [09:42] various ways walk back that policy, walk [09:44] back the policy uh of instituting a [09:47] Palestinian Authority, of having [09:48] somebody else govern this land, and [09:50] we're trying to reassert our sovereignty [09:52] on this land. So, we have tensions [09:54] within the Israeli body politic. We have [09:56] tensions inside of the Knesset uh and we [09:59] have tensions with this Palestinian [10:01] Authority that continues to to reign. [10:03] So, so there's this tension and that [10:05] tension is not going to go away. This [10:07] conversation, we can have it again next [10:08] week and the week after because because [10:10] this this is a long process. Now, from [10:13] people like myself, the people that I [10:14] represent, we are trying and I don't [10:16] hide this at all. I I'm saying it, you [10:19] know, loudly. We're proclaiming that we [10:21] want to see the reneging and the walking [10:23] back of the Oslo process. We want to see [10:25] Israel in control. And then there's a [10:27] question about how do you deal with the [10:29] Arabs or the other that that's in in [10:32] these lands. And I I wrote about it in [10:33] the New York Times and I've tried to [10:35] explain, you know, the way the way we [10:36] see it. The the various entities that [10:39] you mentioned, let's say Qatar, okay, [10:42] Qatar is pro Palestinian. Qatar wants to [10:44] shrink Israel. Maybe Qatar wants to get [10:46] rid of Israel. It supports Kamas, etc., [10:48] etc. So when we are stronger in the [10:51] field, if when we're stronger in Judea [10:53] and Samaria and Gaza, in Syria and [10:55] Lebanon, well, they don't like that. So [10:57] they're going to condemn us. They're [10:58] going to give us a hard time. They want [11:00] to see us be part of not the peace [11:02] process, but the pieces process where [11:03] they're shrinking us in pieces and and [11:05] we eventually disappear. We're against [11:07] that. We're for a big Israel and a [11:09] strong Israel. [11:09] >> Okay. So, got it. And and appreciate all [11:12] the cander. I think you you're very [11:14] straightforward about this, not trying [11:16] to hide what your end goals are, but for [11:18] those are that are in favor of [11:21] annexation of of additional territory in [11:23] this part of the Middle East. I mean, I [11:26] I guess my question is what are the best [11:28] arguments? [11:29] >> Before you before you ask your question, [11:30] it's not taking more land. Israel is [11:33] already just like America controls, [11:35] let's say, Puerto Rico or or I don't [11:36] know, the Virgin Islands. It's already a [11:39] territory. It's not like more land. [11:40] Israel's already a a military governor [11:43] in this region. Uh and so we're talking [11:46] about ancestral land. We're talking [11:48] about land that currently one way or the [11:49] other Israel administers. The question [11:51] is are we going to change [11:53] >> the paradigm? Yeah. [11:55] >> Right. What's the status? Got it. Now, I [11:57] mean, I think the opposing argument is [12:00] that all of this, what whatever steps [12:02] you take next, it's going to isolate [12:05] Israel from the left here in the United [12:07] States, from the Arabs that you're [12:08] trying to normalize with, from the [12:10] Europeans that you're trading with, and [12:12] I don't know, everybody else, the [12:13] Canadians, the Latin Americans, [12:15] whatever. I mean, does Israel need more [12:17] isolation right now? Is that a concern? [12:21] Um, or is it like, hey, let's [12:23] consolidate power and then figure out [12:24] what happens next? I mean, what's the [12:26] like when you think about the kind of [12:28] long-term strategy from the perspective [12:31] of the Israeli right, those that are in [12:34] favor of annexation, [12:36] um, you know, and then I think maybe [12:37] also there's the other question of like, [12:39] do you really want to rule another [12:41] people in perpetuity? I think those are [12:43] the two questions that I get right now [12:45] and I'm just curious to hear your [12:47] response. [12:48] >> Okay, let me answer your second question [12:50] first, which is, do we want to rule [12:51] another people? I always tell Israelis, [12:54] every power rules other people. America [12:57] rules all kinds of other people. If it's [12:59] Puerto Ricans or American Indians or all [13:01] kinds of folks are under the control, [13:03] Okinawans, whatever it is, are under the [13:05] control of of the United States for [13:07] various reasons. All powers, certainly [13:09] all powers in this region have different [13:11] kinds of peoples that they have to [13:12] contend with and rule. I have no problem [13:14] with ruling other people as long as they [13:16] are uh respectful, as long as they [13:19] accept the the governing body, the the [13:22] laws, if they act with respect. By the [13:24] way, Middle Easterners totally [13:25] understand that. If you're a guest in my [13:26] area, you got to respect my the law of [13:29] of the land. You got to respect the [13:30] landlord. It's really pretty simple. And [13:32] yeah, we have this this other minority [13:34] that's living here. They have to accept [13:37] the fact that they're living in a Jewish [13:38] state. Do I want to govern them? I'm not [13:40] afraid of that. I'm not afraid of [13:41] extending my hand in giving medical [13:44] services. I'm not I'm not if and if I [13:46] would be afraid of that, that would [13:48] undermine my position here in the Middle [13:50] East. The Middle East expects you to be [13:51] a strong governor wherever you are. [13:53] That's the way of this region. You have [13:55] to be we the Hebrew word is mishut. You [13:58] got to like hold on hard around here. [14:00] Got to make your you got to assert your [14:02] your presence and your sovereignty. If [14:04] you if you slink away from that, well, [14:06] the enemy gets the idea that you're [14:08] going to shrink forever. So, that's [14:09] number one. uh with regarding to the [14:11] European Union, Canadians, etc. Look, [14:14] they've been taught that we we've the [14:17] one who we are the ones who have [14:18] annunciated uh the two-state solution [14:20] policy. [14:22] And so now we have to annunciate [14:23] something different. And I think that [14:24] they'll understand it because it makes [14:26] perfect sense. All you have to do to [14:28] understand it is look at the map of the [14:29] Middle East. Israel is a tiny little [14:31] country. It's a protectorate. I like to [14:33] think of it as an Indian reservation. [14:35] We're a tiny Indian reservation inside [14:37] of this big region. And we have got to [14:39] protect our land, our our our ancestral [14:42] homeland. And we can't let other people [14:45] take it over and threaten us from these [14:46] places. Obviously, just just on the [14:48] security level, if the if if the enemies [14:50] of Israel control uh Judea and Samaria, [14:53] they're threatening the rest of Israel. [14:54] But also on the narrative level, this is [14:56] our heartland. If we undermine our claim [14:58] to Hebron, we've certainly undermined [15:01] our claim to to Tel Aviv. So, we have to [15:02] go to to an education campaign. And [15:05] frankly, Jonathan, uh, and and I'm being [15:08] candid here, you know, I need your help [15:10] and I need FDD's help to enunciate a [15:12] policy of sovereignty. I'm I'm saying [15:15] we're in the state of Israel needs to [15:18] annunciate it, and I'm sure you will as [15:19] well, but I'm saying I have to convince [15:21] intellectuals like yourself uh to to to [15:25] come up with a better policy than bland [15:27] giveaway and the two-state solution, [15:28] which is a failure and is anti- Middle [15:30] Eastern. It's in the end pro jihad. It [15:33] doesn't work. Now, it's time for a big [15:35] Israel, a strong Israel. And I believe [15:36] that a strong Israel and a big Israel is [15:39] better for more people, more rights for [15:41] more people through a strong Israel. [15:43] >> Okay. I I want to just maybe get into a [15:46] little bit of the nitty-gritty for a [15:47] minute. When you look at the at Judea [15:50] and Samaria, you look at the West Bank [15:52] right now, it's carved up into three [15:54] kind of broad, you know, buckets, right? [15:57] Area A controlled by the Palestinian [15:59] Authority. Area B, kind of a joint [16:02] custody, if you will, of the [16:04] Palestinians and the Israelis. Area C, [16:06] this is territory controlled by Israel. [16:09] Um, how does that work? And what is your [16:12] vision for like converting this into [16:15] something that's more, I don't know, [16:17] long-term? [16:19] Look, area A under Palestinian Authority [16:21] control is where they hand out uh I I [16:23] have I have myself picked out of the [16:25] garbage Palestinian Authority books and [16:27] used uh Google Translate or or now AI to [16:30] just translate it right there. And it's [16:32] just horrible stuff. It's like, you [16:34] know, one dead Jew plus another dead Jew [16:36] equals two dead Jews. It's like like [16:37] these guys are working overtime to to [16:40] brainwash [16:42] towards what is really effectively [16:43] neo-Naziism. So they control these [16:46] areas. Area A. Uh, are they strong [16:50] economically? [16:51] Well, not really. Is is there strong [16:54] governance? Well, let me put it to you [16:56] this way. If you go to South Hebrron [16:58] Hills, out of some of the uh Arab towns, [17:01] there flows a river of unsanitized, [17:04] untreated water that flows through these [17:07] beautiful biblical valleys. And the [17:09] reason is is because the Europeans built [17:11] a water cleaning plant treatment plant. [17:14] But when the Palestinian authority heard [17:16] that also Kirat Arba, a tiny little [17:18] hamlet, would also benefit from this, [17:20] they stopped using it. They didn't want [17:21] to share anything with the Jews. And so [17:23] Ros sewage was flowing through these [17:25] biblical mountains. So to me, you know, [17:27] Area A is just it's just lawlessness. Uh [17:31] jihadism lawlessness. And of course, ask [17:33] the average Arab, this is the funniest [17:35] part of it all. Ask the average Arab, [17:37] they'll tell you they're corrupt. the [17:40] they they don't they misuse their the [17:42] the money that they receive from [17:43] international organizations line their [17:45] pockets. The people aren't receiving [17:47] good hospitals, good roads, good [17:49] education. And and by the way, I want to [17:52] tell you I'm embarrassed that the state [17:54] of Israel has allowed such a thing to be [17:57] the thumb over the Arabs. It's [17:58] embarrassing to me. Why should we allow [18:00] such a thing to happen on our land? [18:02] Water should be clean, roads should be [18:04] safe, hospitals should be should be [18:05] decent. And so, uh, area A is [18:09] Palestinian Authority control. And by [18:10] the way, if you look at their maps, if [18:13] you look at their mugs, it shows the [18:15] whole state of Israel and the word [18:17] Palestine on it. They want to see the [18:20] end of Israel, what they call the [18:21] occupation. And they're the flip side of [18:23] the coin of Kamas. This is an important [18:24] thing to know. October 7th, Kamas, [18:26] October 7th, they're so bad. Who pays [18:28] their salaries? The PA, the Palestinian [18:31] Authority. It's just simply the suit and [18:32] tie other side of the coin of of Kamas. [18:35] are the same thing essentially. I know [18:37] you've spent a lot of time parsing out [18:39] the distinctions, but essentially [18:41] speaking, the PA is paying for kamas [18:44] terrorists. So, come on. What are we [18:45] what are we what are we parsing here? [18:46] It's the same thing. Uh area B, mixed [18:48] control, as you said, the military [18:50] control by Israel and area C is is where [18:52] we live, where I'm where I'm sitting [18:54] right now. Um there have been changes [18:56] now in the state of Israel uh about [18:59] purchasing land in this area and [19:01] governing land. basically they've given [19:02] a lot more governance to the local [19:05] municipalities and basically where Jews [19:08] are is is now going to be kind of Jewish [19:10] controlled. I know that sounds weird but [19:12] basically in Hebrron we had a situation [19:14] where the ma Jewish mayor of Hebrron had [19:17] very limited abilities to govern uh our [19:22] region and and the PA was in charge of [19:24] garbage and and infrastructure and all [19:25] that kind of stuff like that. Now, we're [19:27] gonna get much more of that control to [19:28] ourselves. And this is this is what the [19:31] bad guys would like to call creeping [19:32] sovereignty, creeping annexation. It is. [19:35] It's exactly what it is. We're moving [19:36] towards towards more and more and [19:38] towards sovereignty in this land. [19:40] >> All right. I appreciate all the cander. [19:42] I think folks listening will, too. I [19:45] think you're very straightforward and [19:46] very clear about, you know, your goals [19:48] and and and what the community wants [19:50] that you represent. Um, I want to just [19:52] give you one last uh [19:54] >> and and I think that many Arabs will be [19:56] thankful. Many Arabs, I meet Arabs all [19:59] the time. Okay, I'm in contact with [20:00] Arabs all the time. And they say to me [20:02] completely different things than you [20:03] hear in the news. They say to me, just [20:06] give me a blue identity card, i.e. [20:08] Israeli residency. Just give me [20:09] residency. Protect me from the PA that [20:11] you brought upon us. Give me a decent [20:13] life. I just want a decent life. Or they [20:15] say to me, what's going to be like a [20:16] Middle East type phrase, Mayo? And I [20:18] tell them, you know, we're going to be [20:19] sovereign here. You're going to have [20:20] decency and and opportunity. You're [20:22] going to be a resident. You're going to [20:23] have your your rights to your house and [20:24] to your and you're going to be [20:25] protected. You're going to have your [20:26] wives are going to have uh decent [20:28] hospitals. Your kids are going to have [20:30] decent schools, job opportunities as [20:31] long as you're loyal to the Jewish state [20:33] of Israel. They say inshallah with the [20:35] help of God. That sounds great. So [20:37] that's what they say to me. So I I'm not [20:38] just talking about some kind of Jewish [20:39] rights thing. I'm talking about a bigger [20:41] Israel, a Jewish state with minorities, [20:44] well adjusted, with upward mobility, [20:45] doing well in our land, and of course [20:47] post jihad. All right, we're running out [20:50] of time here. We ran a little late. I [20:52] had like four other questions for you, [20:54] but the conversation got really [20:55] interesting and I just didn't want to [20:56] stop you. So, we're going to have to [20:58] have you back on another time. I'm fully [21:00] aware that not everything that you say [21:02] everybody's going to agree with. But, [21:04] you know, like I said as we started, um, [21:06] we're not afraid of strong opinions here [21:08] and I definitely appreciate your cander. [21:10] Want to thank you, Ishai Fleer, for [21:12] joining us this morning on the FDD [21:14] Morning Brief. [21:15] >> Thank you, Jonathan, and Shabbat Shalom [21:16] from the land of Israel. All right, [21:18] folks. I hope you enjoyed my discussion [21:19] with FDD's Jonathan Shanzer. He's a [21:23] great intellectual, great thinker, and I [21:24] made the case for sovereignty in Jewish [21:26] rights in Judea and Samaria. 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