Transcript [00:00] So, [00:01] there was a Joe Rogan episode that was [00:04] just released [00:05] long format about 3 hour long interview [00:08] with Vice President J.D. Vance and there [00:11] were a number of clips in there number [00:13] of parts of the interview where they [00:14] talked about Israel. [00:17] And I want to get into that in this [00:18] video. I want to talk about some of the [00:19] things that J.D. Vance said and I've [00:20] talked about J.D. Vance the Vice [00:22] President a number of times already. [00:25] I made a video about him when the MOU [00:27] was announced. Where he was he said some [00:30] harsh things about Israel around that [00:32] time. And I think that [00:35] we're discovering a little bit of a [00:36] pattern here. [00:38] And I want to get into that here. Get [00:40] into some of the specific things he [00:41] said. Okay, so let's just get right to [00:42] it. Let's pull this up on stage. We're [00:45] all everything we're going to be doing [00:46] here. We're going to be playing is from [00:48] is from clips that are on X. [00:51] Okay, so this is [00:53] Here's the first clip we're going to [00:54] look at. [00:55] >> And again, with limitations. Like when [00:57] the Iranians hit ships, the president [00:59] has been willing to knock the hell out [01:00] of the Iranians in response. This is not [01:02] just a negotiation. It's negotiation. [01:04] It's military. It's all these things. [01:06] But I know it beyond a shadow of a doubt [01:08] that there have been people within the [01:10] Israeli government who are trying to [01:13] like actually shift us away from that [01:16] policy because they want to continue the [01:18] military campaign. And by the way, like [01:20] there are people within their government [01:21] that I love. I have good relationships [01:23] with. I hope and I don't think that [01:25] they're part of this. I mean, you know, [01:27] the the ambassador of [01:29] Israel to the United States, I think is [01:31] actually really good guy. Obviously, he [01:33] cares about Israel first. I care about [01:34] America first. But there are some people [01:37] within their system we know beyond a [01:38] shadow of a doubt who are manipulating [01:42] and trying to change American public [01:45] opinion to keep the war going on [01:47] indefinitely. Again, not towards any [01:49] objective, but just indefinitely. And [01:52] again, [01:56] Okay, this is [01:59] absurd. [02:01] Absurd. [02:04] >> [snorts] [02:04] >> Now, first of all, wanting to influence [02:06] American public policy, that's not some [02:08] nefarious thing. That's a thing called [02:10] diplomacy. [02:12] Lobbying, right? That's what [02:14] That's what governments do. They try to [02:17] What's the definition of diplomacy? [02:19] The definition of diplomacy is [02:23] trying [02:25] to convince [02:26] another state [02:29] that your interests are in their [02:31] interests. [02:33] That's what it is. [02:34] You try to get them to see your [02:36] interests, what's in your interest as in [02:37] their interests. That's what you try to [02:39] do. [02:40] There's nothing dark and nefarious about [02:42] it about influence. [02:44] Influencing public opinion. [02:46] But, the absurdity of what he says here, [02:50] and I think that every supporter of [02:52] Israel [02:53] should be offended by this. I don't care [02:54] if you're for or against the current [02:56] government. [02:57] But, what he says here is that I know [02:59] without beyond a shadow of a doubt [03:04] that there are [03:06] elements of the Israeli government [03:08] who want the war to continue [03:11] indefinitely [03:14] not to achieve any specific objective. [03:16] Let's play the the last couple seconds [03:18] of that again just you hear what he says [03:21] there. [03:21] >> and and trying to change American public [03:24] opinion to keep the war going on [03:27] indefinitely. Again, not towards any [03:29] objective, but just indefinitely. [03:34] >> Who Who? [03:36] Who? [03:37] Who is he talking about? [03:39] Who in Israel [03:40] Who in Israel wants the war to continue [03:43] indefinitely [03:44] not towards any objective? Here's what [03:46] Israelis want. [03:48] Okay? Israelis want to defeat our [03:51] enemies. [03:53] Now, does that mean that we have [03:56] the same [03:57] goals as the United States? No, we do [03:59] not have the same objectives of the [04:00] United States. [04:02] He's talking in the context and we're [04:04] going to get into this a little bit more [04:05] about the about the memorandum the [04:06] memorandum of understanding like that he [04:08] was trying to, you know, reach, you [04:10] know, he was the one who was who was the [04:12] driving force or at least the front man [04:14] of the 14-point memorandum of [04:15] understanding with Iran. He's saying [04:17] that there and that and that there are [04:20] elements in the Israeli government in [04:22] the Israeli political establishment that [04:23] did not want this deal to go through [04:25] that did not want this approach. That is [04:27] correct. [04:29] Because Israel did not see the [04:31] memorandum of understanding was a [04:32] perfect uh [04:34] moment in this war [04:37] where what was at at the time stated as [04:40] US objectives and Israeli objectives [04:42] diverged. [04:46] That's fair. Israel has different [04:47] objectives, but there is no one in the [04:50] state of Israel. Nobody, even the most [04:52] extreme people, [04:53] want war indefinitely not towards any [04:57] specific objective. Even if you're the [04:58] most hawkish person in the world and you [05:00] want to just completely decimate and [05:01] destroy every enemy around us. [05:04] No one wants war indefinitely. [05:07] He doesn't say who he's talking about. [05:08] Now, he's not going to he's not going to [05:09] name names, but that's part of it. I'm [05:12] not saying he should have, but he never [05:13] does. It's so easy to say things like [05:16] this and to say he knows with that [05:17] beyond a shadow of a doubt. [05:20] Those were his words. Beyond a shadow of [05:22] a doubt there are people in the Israeli [05:24] government who want war indefinitely not [05:26] towards any specific objective. [05:30] This is This is not [05:32] clear thinking. [05:34] It's not accurate. It's not based on [05:35] anything. [05:37] And it's offensive. [05:38] Sorry. That that that So, that one was [05:40] just like [05:42] uh [05:42] Look. [05:43] Here's the thing. J.D. Vance might have [05:45] a very successful political career [05:46] beyond being vice president. He might be [05:48] in public office for a long time. We [05:50] might have to have a good relationship [05:52] with him. I don't know where this is [05:53] going. [05:55] You know, the first time he ever visited [05:57] Israel when he was running for Senate, [05:59] he he he [06:01] you know, that you know, [clears throat] [06:02] that was was a much more friendly visit. [06:04] And then when he came as vice president, [06:05] it was less friendly. I don't know where [06:06] he is on Israel exactly. [06:08] But you know what this reminds me of? [06:11] This reminds me of um [06:13] back when the MOU was signed. [06:16] And and J.D. Vance said [06:19] he said this. [06:23] >> I saw the Axios report. Uh you know, [06:25] that that that that Netanyahu is fuming. [06:28] That's not reflective of the [06:29] conversations that I've had with him, [06:31] but maybe he's saying something to [06:32] somebody else that he's not saying to [06:33] me. What I will say, and this does [06:35] bother me, is that you have seen people [06:38] within BB's cabinet who have come out [06:40] and attacked the deal, and in some ways [06:43] very personally attacked the president [06:45] of the United States. [06:48] >> Okay, that was a lie. [06:51] I I I have no other way to put it. [06:53] I watch very closely. [06:56] You know, I watch politics pretty [06:57] closely. I think you guys know that. [06:59] And there was definitely critics of the [07:01] deal in the Israeli government, lots of [07:02] them, including Prime Minister Netanyahu [07:04] himself. [07:05] I could not find a single statement by [07:09] any member of Israel's cabinet [07:11] that said anything [07:13] about President Trump [07:15] in this deal. [07:16] Anything that could be even [07:19] misconstrued as a personal attack. But [07:21] he didn't say who it is. Just members of [07:24] Prime Minister Netanyahu's own cabinet. [07:25] Who? [07:27] I know who the list of all the cabinet [07:28] members are. We can check what their [07:29] statements were around that time. [07:32] Nothing. [07:34] And here So, here when he's saying that [07:36] there are We know beyond a shadow of a [07:38] doubt that there are members of the [07:40] Israeli government [07:41] who want war indefinitely, not towards [07:45] any objective, not towards Israel's [07:47] objectives are extremely clear. They've [07:49] stated them very clearly. [07:52] Israel has a a uh [07:54] defense and security uh a a a secure I'm [07:57] sorry, defense security and foreign [07:59] relations cabinet. It's like defense and [08:01] a foreign relations cabinet [08:02] and and and uh and committee in the [08:04] Knesset [08:06] that decides on the military objectives [08:08] that Israel's pursuing. [08:10] Now, you might not like them. Some [08:12] people call them expansionist, having a [08:14] buffer zone in Syria and a buffer zone [08:15] in Lebanon and a buffer zone in Gaza. [08:18] And it is an Israeli objective to take [08:20] down the Iranian regime, [08:22] which is different than Americans, and [08:24] it requires much more [08:27] kinetic action, much more aggressive [08:28] action [08:30] than the Americans have shown that [08:32] they're willing to take ever since the [08:33] ceasefire on April 8th. That's true. [08:35] This is all true. But this to say that [08:37] there's no objective other than [08:39] indefinite war or indefinitely, and he [08:41] stressed the point. [08:42] He stressed the point here. [08:45] I [08:46] I'm sorry I'm going to do this to you, [08:48] but I just got I got to play this again. [08:50] >> I obviously he cares about Israel first, [08:52] I care about America first. But there [08:54] are some people within their system, we [08:55] know beyond a shadow of a doubt, who are [08:59] >> Beyond a shadow of a doubt. [09:01] >> manipulating and trying to change [09:04] American public opinion to keep the war [09:06] going on indefinitely. Again, not [09:09] towards any objective, but just [09:11] indefinitely. [09:13] >> Unbelievable. [09:16] All right, we're going to go on to [09:17] another clip. Uh you know [09:19] but before we do that, let me just [09:21] remind you about this big event. You do [09:23] not want to miss this event. You do not [09:25] want to miss it. We have a webinar [09:26] coming this coming Monday, Monday, July [09:28] 20th, 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time, 8:00 p.m. [09:32] in Israel. [09:33] Are we headed for regime change? 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Let's [10:58] watch clip number two [11:00] of Vice President J.D. Vance yesterday [11:02] on the Joe Rogan podcast. [11:07] Here we go. [11:10] >> But I I definitely think you have seen [11:12] this very discreet, extremely [11:15] well-funded campaign to try to derail [11:18] the negotiation and try to derail the [11:20] deal. And you know, there was again, [11:22] there's this time article that came out [11:24] yesterday. A friend sent it to me. [11:26] It's like worth reading because it lists [11:29] a bunch of people who have quite [11:31] literally been paid [11:33] by a former Trump campaign person who [11:37] was himself paid by certain elements [11:40] within the Israeli government. And those [11:42] people are attacking me viciously for [11:44] quite literally trying to accomplish the [11:46] negotiation objective that the president [11:48] set for the country. So [11:50] >> What is their position? Like are they [11:51] attacking you how? [11:52] >> Oh, it's it's social media posts. It's [11:55] you know, they're leaking to reporters. [11:57] They're attacking me obsessively saying [11:59] that we should not be negotiating with [12:01] Iran. [12:03] >> Okay, he's talking about social media [12:05] influencers who are leaking to [12:06] reporters. I'm not sure what he means by [12:08] that. [12:09] Um [12:10] But he's also Remember what he's talking [12:12] about here before we before we continue [12:13] here. [12:14] He's saying [12:15] that there was this article about people [12:17] who are getting paid by a former Trump [12:20] official. Now, what he he's talking [12:22] about Brad Parscale who's been very [12:23] transparent and very open. He signed a [12:26] FARA FARA form which means a foreign uh [12:29] agent registration act. He signed a FARA [12:31] form to register himself as because he's [12:34] receiving money from the Israeli [12:35] government to help uh move the needle on [12:38] support for Israel [12:40] uh among Americans. Every country in the [12:43] world spends money trying to influence [12:46] American public opinion. Okay? There's [12:47] nothing dark about it unless it is [12:50] concealed. And there is no one more [12:53] transparent about the work that he's [12:55] doing in trying to improve Israel's [12:58] image in America than Brad Parscale. And [13:00] he's talking about personal attacks on [13:02] himself again. I don't know where the [13:03] personal attacks are. [13:05] I don't know what he's talking about. [13:06] Maybe there are. Maybe there are. But uh [13:09] you know, he's he's making it sound like [13:10] some sort of conspiracy when everything [13:12] is above board. Everything is is by the [13:14] is is Everything that's happening is [13:16] legal and above board. It is people who [13:18] are uh who are advocates for Israel and [13:21] are very public about it. Let's keep [13:23] going. [13:23] >> We should just keep the military [13:24] campaign going indefinitely. And that [13:27] >> There Yeah, there it is again. [13:29] People meaning This is what This is a [13:32] classic straw man argument. That the [13:34] people who are opposed to the deal that [13:37] he's negotiating, [13:40] let's back up, okay? So, let me set this [13:42] point up better. Let's back up and watch [13:44] from the and watch this again. [13:45] >> This very discreet, extremely [13:48] well-funded campaign to try to derail [13:51] the negotiation and try to derail the [13:53] deal. And you know, that there was [13:55] again, there's this Time article that [13:57] came out yesterday. A friend sent it to [13:58] me. [14:00] It's like worth reading because it lists [14:02] a bunch of people who have quite [14:04] literally been paid [14:06] by a former Trump campaign person who [14:10] was himself paid by certain elements [14:13] within the Israeli government. And those [14:15] people are attacking me viciously for [14:17] quite literally trying to accomplish the [14:19] negotiation objective that the president [14:21] set for the country. So, what is their [14:23] position? Like are they [14:25] >> attacking you how? [14:25] >> Oh, it's it's social media posts. It's [14:29] you know, they're leaking to reporters. [14:30] They're attacking me obsessively saying [14:32] that we should not be negotiating with [14:35] Iran. We should just keep the military [14:37] campaign going indefinitely. [14:38] >> There you go. [14:40] Pause there. This is [14:43] This is the type of thing [14:45] that [14:46] I [14:47] love to notice, okay? When we read the [14:50] news, when we watch news video, when we [14:52] read news stories, we're always looking [14:54] for these clues of [14:56] agenda, right? Clues that that point us [14:59] to the agenda. And one of the classic [15:01] moves is what's called a straw man. Some [15:04] of you know what that is. A straw man is [15:06] where you posit that your opponent is [15:09] claiming something that they're not [15:12] actually claiming. [15:13] And the claim that you're saying that [15:15] they're claiming [15:17] is easy to refute. Okay, so here, this [15:21] isn't a debate, but it's the same [15:22] concept. I'm going to posit that the [15:25] position of my opponents [15:28] is [15:30] is this extreme position that is that is [15:32] so easy to discredit. [15:36] So, what's the position? He's saying [15:37] that the opponents my opponents, the [15:39] people who are criticizing me for the [15:41] 14-point memorandum of understanding for [15:43] negotiating with the Iranians, for [15:45] saying that negotiating with the [15:46] Iranians is a waste of time, for saying [15:48] that negotiation with Iranians is [15:50] negotiating with terrorists, that it's [15:51] empowering them, that it's that it's a [15:53] bad move is not [15:56] it's not a legitimate position. It's not [15:58] that it's you can have disagreements [16:00] about what should be done strategically. [16:02] No, no, no, no, no. [16:03] The their goal [16:06] they believe that you shouldn't [16:07] negotiate with the Iranians and that we [16:09] should prolong the war indefinitely. [16:13] No one is claiming that we should [16:14] prolong the war indefinitely. You know [16:16] who prolongs the war indefinitely? [16:19] This war that began in 1979 when [16:22] immediately after seizing power the IRGC [16:26] uh [16:27] attacked the American Embassy and then a [16:29] couple years later blew up uh hundreds [16:32] of American servicemen [16:34] in Lebanon and then a few years later [16:36] blew up American servicemen in Saudi [16:38] Arabia and everything else they've done. [16:41] They've been at what the [16:44] The IRGC's been at war with America [16:45] forever. [16:48] You want an indefinite war? [16:51] You [16:53] throw a lifeline to the Iranian regime. [16:56] Nobody who was opposed to this [16:58] memorandum of understanding wants an [17:00] indefinite war. But you see the straw [17:01] man argument. [17:02] Oh, they want to He didn't say, you [17:04] know, what Joe Rogan says to him, "What [17:05] was their argument?" [17:07] And instead of saying their argument was [17:10] that this memorandum of understanding [17:12] gives too much to the Iranians, that it [17:14] concedes too much, that it throws them a [17:17] lifeline, [17:18] and that it and that it undermines the [17:20] the ultimate war objectives, and that [17:22] agreements made with the Iranians aren't [17:24] worth the paper they're written on [17:25] because they can't be trusted. He [17:26] doesn't lay out the argument. [17:29] When Joe Rogan says them, "What is their [17:30] argument?" he says that they want the [17:32] war to continue indefinitely. Oh gosh, [17:34] those extremists, those warmongers. [17:38] >> And that is that is their explicit [17:40] position. And coming after me saying [17:42] >> That is their explicit position, that [17:44] they want the war to go on indefinitely. [17:47] >> saying that, you know, people have come [17:48] after me and say that I'm influenced by [17:50] Qatar, that I'm influenced by foreign [17:52] governments, that, you know, I take my [17:54] marching orders from Tucker Carlson, and [17:57] there there's just so much out [17:59] there. When what I'm actually trying to [18:00] do is accomplish what the president of [18:02] the United States told me to accomplish, [18:04] which is a settlement of this that [18:07] accomplishes our objectives. [18:09] Iran doesn't have nuclear weapon, we [18:11] have the free flow of oil and gas. [18:13] >> Right. And the argument against the MOU [18:16] was that this MOU does not accomplish [18:20] those objectives. [18:21] That it does not prevent them from [18:23] having a nuclear weapon because the [18:24] nuclear issue was not even in the MOU. [18:27] It was in the MOU in one clause which [18:29] said that it will be discussed at a [18:31] later date. [18:33] That's it. That's what the MOU says [18:35] about the nuclear. [18:36] That they will discuss it later. [18:39] That was part of the argument against [18:40] the MOU, that it makes no demands on the [18:42] nuclear program. [18:46] >> And and like I should be clear, [18:48] um [18:49] you know, [18:51] like I don't actually mind [18:53] I don't mind that [18:56] the [18:58] you know, let's say certain elements of [19:00] the Israeli government want to criticize [19:02] the deal or have disagreements about the [19:04] deal. [19:05] I don't even mind an effort to try to [19:07] influence, you know, foreign governments [19:10] try to influence the United States all [19:11] the time. You know, Israel does it, [19:13] other countries do it. It's just sort of [19:15] the nature of the beast. What bothers me [19:18] is actually when Americans [19:21] allow, meaning American leadership, [19:24] allows that influence to affect their [19:26] judgment and to affect [19:28] >> Mhm. Why? [19:31] Why? If someone from another [19:34] country is [19:35] going to American leadership and saying, [19:38] "Listen, we have a different [19:39] perspective. Let me share with you why [19:41] we think you're making a mistake." [19:43] Why is it bad if those American leaders [19:45] let that argument that they're hearing [19:47] affect their judgment? What's the [19:48] problem? [19:50] Think it's called lobbying, [19:52] diplomacy. [19:54] >> what they're advocating for. That's what [19:56] really bothers me. People are always [19:58] going to try to influence the United [19:59] States of America, whether they're [20:01] allies of ours or whether they're [20:02] enemies of ours. [20:03] But, again, when I open up the pages of [20:06] Time magazine and I see that there's a [20:09] literal foreign influence campaign being [20:11] funded to tank the very deal that I was [20:14] pursuing and oh, by the way, many of the [20:16] people who were receiving that money [20:18] were actually attacking me in completely [20:20] dishonest ways, you know, my response to [20:22] that is, "Well, go to hell. I'm going to [20:24] do what I have to do for the American [20:25] people. I represent Ameri- [20:28] Americans first." [20:30] >> You know, I would love it if J.D. Vance [20:32] would ever provide an actual example for [20:35] the things that he says. [20:38] But, people attacking him personally who [20:39] did not like [20:41] the deal. [20:44] He didn't like the you know, that's what [20:45] I would actually I'd appreciate that. [20:49] Here's another clip. [20:50] >> Do you think that Israel is affecting [20:53] American political judgment? [20:55] >> Um [20:58] I mean, [21:00] I certainly think that [21:03] there are a lot of talking points and [21:05] there are a lot of arguments that make [21:07] their way into American political [21:09] discourse. I think there are a lot of [21:10] social media campaigns that definitely [21:12] influence Americans and affect [21:14] Americans. Do I think that it's been [21:15] dispositive on any particular issue like [21:17] like [21:18] I think that's a much more difficult [21:19] question to ask. [21:20] >> that we would have started this war in [21:21] Iran without the influence of Israel? [21:24] >> I think the president, completely [21:26] separate from any influence from Israel, [21:28] believes very strongly, and again I [21:30] agree with this, that Iran should not [21:31] have a nuclear weapon. And I think he [21:32] was wanting to do things [21:34] >> them in June, [21:35] right, that was the initial attack, [21:36] right? [21:37] >> June of last year. [21:38] >> Yeah, with a hammer, yeah. [21:38] >> Right. [21:39] Do you think he would have continued [21:42] with the most recent campaign if it [21:44] wasn't for the influence of Israel? [21:45] >> Yes. Yes, I I do. I do. Yeah. Look [21:50] >> Okay. [21:52] That was uh [21:54] You know, you see what Joe's doing. Now [21:55] here we'll talk a little bit about Joe [21:57] Rogan. [21:59] Joe Rogan is not [22:01] the deepest guy and not and certainly [22:04] not very knowledgeable about the Middle [22:05] East. [22:08] And what he's he was trying to get J.D. [22:11] Vance to say that [22:12] this is Israel's war and that the only [22:14] reason we went to war is because of [22:16] Israel, [22:17] ignoring the fact that [22:20] for [22:21] I don't know, s- s- for like 40 years, [22:24] like since the mid to late '80s, [22:27] uh Donald Trump, [22:29] long before he was in politics, [22:31] has been one of the most anti-Iran [22:33] people, maybe the most anti-Iran person [22:35] in all of American public life. [22:38] Uh [22:39] there's a famous clip of him, [22:41] sorry I didn't dig it up, on Barbara [22:43] Walters, way way back. We're talking [22:45] like 1986 or '87, talking about how [22:48] America should go take Kharg Island, [22:51] b- long before any of us ever heard of [22:53] the place. [22:54] Um he was [22:56] the day he came down the escalator and [22:58] announced his candidacy, one of the [22:59] things he talked talked [23:01] was Iran [23:03] and how they can't have a nuclear [23:04] weapon. [23:06] He's been [23:08] maybe the most hawkish person on Iran in [23:10] American public life. [23:12] So, these people, you know, you cannot [23:14] like [23:16] his position on Iran and how aggressive [23:19] he's been about Iran. [23:21] But, the absurdity of claiming that the [23:24] reason for that position is that [23:26] Israel's influence, you have to ignore [23:29] everything he's ever said about Iran his [23:31] entire in his entire public life. So, I [23:34] appreciated that comment there from J.D. [23:36] Vance. [23:37] Um [23:38] let's do one more uh one more clip here. [23:42] And this one's really fascinating. [23:46] >> Clearly had connections to the upper [23:49] Clearly [23:51] >> Okay, he's talking about Epstein here. [23:53] He's talking about Epstein and Epstein's [23:54] connections to the intelligence [23:56] community. [23:57] >> Clearly had connections to the upper the [24:01] highest levels of American intelligence. [24:03] He clearly had connections to the [24:04] highest levels of Israeli intelligence. [24:06] In fact, one of the interesting story [24:08] One of the interesting things the [24:09] Epstein saga reveals about And I And I [24:11] try to make this point. It's It's One of [24:13] the reason why I'm always careful and I [24:15] say there are some elements within the [24:18] Israeli government who don't like our [24:20] peace process because there are a lot of [24:21] elements within the Israeli government [24:23] that actually do like our peace process. [24:24] They recognize that this indefinite [24:26] campaign is not good for them, either. [24:29] And And the Epstein thing is interesting [24:30] because as much as I know, you know, [24:34] Prime Minister Netanyahu not a [24:35] particularly popular person in the [24:38] United States of America right now. [24:41] Epstein seemed to be connected to the [24:43] elements of the Israeli deep state that [24:45] were left of center. Like, I've always [24:47] found that fascinating. [24:49] It wasn't like he was super connected to [24:52] the right of center of Israeli politics. [24:59] >> Correct. [25:01] You know, the whole [25:03] This is a funny one because, you know, [25:05] there's this [25:07] there's this idea on the anti-Israel [25:09] conspiratorial [25:11] corners of the American right [25:13] that like, you know, Epstein was an [25:15] Israeli agent and that's all part of [25:17] their of their hatred of Israel and [25:19] Netanyahu and they kind of all blended [25:21] all together. [25:23] And [25:25] what they don't realize is what JD Vance [25:27] just said here, which is [25:30] that [25:31] first of all, Bibi Netanyahu, our Prime [25:33] Minister [25:34] actually warned about Epstein [25:36] years earlier. [25:39] And Ehud Barak [25:43] who is kind of Netanyahu's arch-enemy in [25:46] Israeli politics, a failed former Prime [25:48] Minister [25:50] really leader of the left, he was [25:52] very closely tied to Epstein. [25:55] And the Epstein connections, if there [25:56] are Epstein connections [25:58] high up in Israel, they are on the deep [26:01] state left, which is the anti [26:04] right-wing, anti-current government [26:06] left. Okay, this is an important detail [26:09] for Americans to recognize about this [26:11] whole thing. But I want to go back [26:14] I want to go back to, you know, earlier [26:16] one of the earlier clips where where I [26:18] was uh [26:20] where we're talking about the MOU, you [26:21] know, I was just thinking [26:23] that he's complaining about the [26:25] uh these these influence operations of [26:27] Israelis who are anti the MOU. So, let [26:29] me ask a question. [26:32] Did it work? [26:34] Like I've talked about this before on [26:36] this channel about conspiracies about [26:37] things Israel did, like like Israel [26:40] killed, you know, killed Charlie Kirk. [26:41] Like, okay, did it work? [26:43] Israel did 9/11. Did it work? Like, did [26:45] it get the result that Israel would [26:47] want? [26:48] Did Israel manage to stop the MOU? No. [26:54] The failure of the MOU [26:56] and it's of course been a colossal [26:57] failure. The failure of the MOU has [26:59] nothing to do with Israel. [27:03] I mean, did Israel [27:04] cause the Iranians to start firing on [27:07] ships in the Strait of Hormuz and not [27:09] live up to their end of the bargain? [27:12] And not negotiate in good faith? [27:16] Did Did Israel cause that? [27:19] So, did Israel's influence have any [27:22] impact whatsoever on American policy in [27:24] this situation when it comes to this [27:25] 14-point MOU with Iran? Did it have any [27:28] impact at all? [27:31] Doesn't look like it. [27:34] So, So, what is this all this hangering [27:36] about about Israel's influence and the [27:37] money they're they're spending on all [27:39] this influence operations and and what [27:41] did it yield? You signed the MOU, you [27:43] went through with it. It blew up in your [27:45] face because it was a lousy agreement [27:47] made with [27:49] this insane Iranian regime. And everyone [27:52] who follows the Middle East knew [27:54] immediately upon reading that MOU that [27:57] it was a ridiculous document. It ceded [28:00] It [28:01] explicitly gave Iran a say in Lebanese [28:04] security decisions. [28:07] It [28:08] It explicitly [28:10] ceded the point that Iran has some has [28:13] some controlling interest and some [28:17] in the Strait of Hormuz. [28:19] It conceded that. [28:21] It said that they're going to make [28:22] arrangements for for how to how to [28:24] manage the Strait of Hormuz. It conceded [28:25] the point. It didn't make any demands on [28:28] their nuclear [28:29] program whatsoever except some vague [28:32] agreement to talk about it. [28:35] It was a lousy agreement. We all knew [28:37] that immediately. And And you know, so [28:40] the implication He doesn't say it [28:41] outright cuz you know, he's always [28:42] dancing between the raindrops. [28:44] The implication that somehow Israel ran [28:46] this up, you know, turning people [28:48] against the MOU but what like if America [28:50] if there was more American popular [28:52] support for the MOU it would have [28:54] worked. [28:57] Look I don't know [29:00] I don't know what JD Vance's problem [29:02] with Israel is [29:03] but this is really becoming a pattern [29:06] and the pattern is is is also it's [29:11] it's not even that well done. [29:14] He never names people he never gives [29:16] concrete examples when Joe Rogan asked [29:18] him give me some examples of these [29:19] attacks he just sort of [29:21] again spoke in in generalities [29:24] like a month ago where he was saying [29:26] that there are members of the Israeli [29:29] cabinet who have who have personally [29:31] attacked President Trump which was [29:32] false. [29:35] I don't understand where it's coming [29:36] from [29:37] and [29:40] you know [29:41] I feel that JD Vance is someone who is [29:43] not that experienced politically. [29:45] His entire political experience before [29:47] being named the VP was just over a year [29:51] in the Senate period that was it. [29:54] And I think that that is is uh [29:58] is a bit of a problem. [30:01] So yeah I found a lot of this disturbing [30:03] now I just want to throw in one last [30:04] point which is that a number of the [30:05] clips that I showed you here [30:08] the two that were most anti-Israel [30:10] um [30:11] were from Clash Report. You might have [30:13] seen this [30:15] um this Twitter account Clash Report [30:17] they do a lot of breaking news [30:19] and it's it's kind of interesting that [30:20] they've been pushing these clips [30:22] especially the the really anti-Israel [30:24] clips from this Joe Rogan interview [30:26] because Clash Report my good friend [30:28] Eitan Fishberger [30:30] um who you should be following on X or [30:32] on Substack at the Fish Files [30:35] he he did a deep dive report he's an [30:36] investigative reporter and he did a [30:38] report about Clash [30:40] about Clash Report about this this [30:41] popular website that people think of as [30:43] a kind of, you know, politically [30:45] conservative new breaking news website [30:47] of some sort. And he did a deep a deep [30:50] dive into who owns who owns them and who [30:51] they are. I'll just read you a what it [30:53] says here. Clash Report is the English [30:55] language division of a Turkish media [30:56] company called Monologue Media, whose [30:59] director is a veteran of Turkish state [31:00] media and whose client list includes two [31:02] separate institutions tied to the [31:04] Erdogan political family. [31:06] Its editors are staff and staff are [31:08] alumni of Turkish state news outlets. [31:10] It's only advertiser is a Turkish state [31:13] defense contractor. And its podcast host [31:15] promotes confirmed Muslim Brotherhood [31:17] leaders. [31:19] Etcetera, etcetera. And he had he wrote [31:21] a whole long deep dive report here about [31:23] Clash Report. I'm only bringing that up [31:24] because uh this is, you know, we're [31:26] talking about influence operations and [31:28] who's running influence operations. And [31:30] uh here's this very influential breaking [31:33] news site on X that everyone uses in [31:35] political media, Clash Report, uh that [31:38] is putting out clips these these clips [31:41] that are going viral of JD Vance talking [31:43] about Epstein and talking about Israel [31:45] and talking about all this stuff. And [31:47] Clash Report is actually a is actually a [31:49] Turkish government op. So, whatever. [31:52] There's lots of ops going on out there. [31:54] And uh it's just a shame to see to see [31:56] JD Vance uh behaving in what I believe [31:59] in in what I what I interpret as a [32:01] reckless manner um in uh in this [32:04] interview. [32:05] All right. [32:07] Sorry, I don't have much positive to say [32:09] here, folks. [32:10] God bless. [32:11] Drop me a comment. Let me know what you [32:12] thought of this video. Um [32:14] I don't know what you're going to say, [32:16] but uh I'll read as many comments as I [32:17] can. 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